Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

It's a funny thing, but we only care about 'our' homeless when we are getting angry about asylum seekers. When stop being angry we go back to not giving a fig for our 'own' homeless, veterans or not.

@YesHonestly At last, someone who understands that illegal immigrants are not going to make themselves known. The Blair government put a stop to asylum seekers being allowed to work; the tory government stopped processing claims. Both were in the hope that it would reduce the pull factor; the result is what we see now .

Your not welcome to holiday in the Canaries
There were protests lady year about tourists and they were bringing oney into the country.

this happened with a friends ex back in 1992 He commited DV aganst her, Her dad helped her boot him out and he got a flat three days later. HE was classed as "vulnerable"

But if you are someone who isnt like this , are on a low income and have no kids you try getting housed. And before you say HMO that STILL means the one who commited the crime (friends ex) is better off cos he got a flat all to himself.

I’d have a different opinion if they were mostly women and children.

I think thousands of unemployed and undocumented men arriving in country is very dangerous.

The ones who say they’re children and get access to schools and foster homes and are placed with vulnerable children without any form of age verification are a huge safeguarding risk.

Yeah Bit like Covid when people went on and on about vulnerable disabled ppl and were happy to use them as a tool to emotionally blackmail others into following Covid restrictions when they couldnt have given a shit about them before!! Rubber stamped by the fact that ppl are now cheering on the benefit cuts facing those same disabled people.

She's laughing her head off at your posts. She said nothing changes in this country. Back in the 60's when my partner's mother was a nurse and white people told her to keep her black hands off them. She was there to treat and help them get better. Back then there was a lot of hate being stirred in this country and people were fearing for their lives. All you want to do is stir hatred I feel sorry for you.

Apart from blaming the previous government what are THIS government actually doing? Oh yes they are "smashing" the gangs, whatever that means

Funny how there are never any protests demanding help for the homeless, veterans, children in poverty. Farage et al start stirring up hate and division and suddenly all the gammons and the more acceptable faces of racism posing as concerned citizens kick off. The British poor will still be poor even if no refugees were taken in

It's become so emotive and hijacked in so many different ways, the worst thing is the austerity argument, 'it's not immigrants, it's austerity'. Right, so how does mass immigration help? It doesn't, does it? Two things can be true at once! It's 'only' 50,000 people a year on boats. Only? That's a whole town! And another half a million or a million each year not coming on boats but by some other means. That's a major city! Every year.

I don’t think a fraction of the young men in the boats are escaping persecution, they come here because they know they can freeload from our ridiculous system. They don’t even have to do a days work, but get clothed fed, and enjoy a lazy lifestyle. They should be sent straight back and made apply for asylum through the correct channels, that would weed out all the young healthy opportunists who should be back on their own country.
I've no objection to genuine asylum seekers who come through the correct channels.

Absolutely.
Where is the infastructure to cope with more people.
Are they going to.build more schools for example more doctors and dentists. Thought not.

It's awful as well that landlords are being given money to house people from.overseas. They get all.their rent paid. It's a guaranteed income for the landlords. It's sly.
Funny how we never want to go to other countries but they always want to come here.

But according to some posters would only fill half of Wembley stadium, another curious statement being banded about.

They pay taxes. If you look at the USA and Germany the reason why they are rich is because they skill them up and get them working and paying taxes. While English people are fighting to hold on to UC and PIP you have people coming here working and buying houses.

How is the EUROPEAN convention on human rights, international law, dear?

I'm glad that she found safety. It was a completely different situation in 1940, of course. Was she sponsored by people already in the UK?

I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp. We have enough people costing the tax payer without importing more. As well as the hotel bill they are given mobile phones and we the taxpayer put spending money on them and they are literally taken into a store and shown how to use it. Thats not media or propaganda that's something I have actually witnessed.

But this in itself is contradictory.

Illegal immigrants don’t get hand outs! They are here illegally - how on earth would they get access to benefits and housing with no paperwork confirming that they have been permitted to stay? It just does not happen.

The ones claiming asylum and in hotels are awaiting processing, and following the law. While being processed, they get an allowance for food etc which I believe is less than £50 a week.

If they are granted asylum, they are here legally. If they are not granted asylum they are sent back. If they go into hiding before being deported, they are still here illegally and the circle begins again - they cannot claim anything because they’re not supposed to be here!

Are you deliberately ignoring the fact that I also mentioned the Refugee Convention? You know, the international law?

You’re right though, I should have been more specific for the hard of thinking amongst us.

Are you under the impression that 20 people could be found in the back of a lorry or in a small boat, and they’d just be sent back to France on the next ferry? Because it was a little bit more involved than that.

Look at the stats. They are publically available. We accepted more people than we transferred to any other country under the Dublin Convention. Brexit is responsible for a lot of our ills, but not this.

We could have offshore processing facilities like Australia. Nothing to stop that. No reason for thousands of undocumented men to be released into the general public every month.

Also, you included the ECHR in your “international law”, lecture.

It isn’t international law.

are you serious?!
France is a safe country!
Why should our own homeless receive fewer privileges than these chancers?

Of course they get hand outs, have you ever noticed how they’re all dressed in brand new clothes with a shiny new phone, they’re fed, clothed, accommodated, every single one of those things is a hand out, they’re definitely haven’t earned it. They can spend years doing absolutely nothing and revel in it.
They should be sent straight back and apply through the proper chanel, they are ‘illegal’ immigrants, it’s a criminal offence to enter our country that way.

you do realise the implications of the ECHR ? - the UK is bound by it.

Those that risk their lives to come across the Channel in small boats are already in a safe European country - France - when they set off. We need to ask why they are intent on coming here rather than staying in the safe country they have already found refuge in. Before anyone answers that it is to do with joining family here or because they know English, I don't feel these are enough of a reason to risk their lives or the lives of their children as has often been the case, though the majority now seem to be young men on their own or in groups. Why not stay in France, learn the language, get French citizenship, then visit the UK like any other French person can.