Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

They proposed that near us and everyone locally protested about it and when Labour came into power (think it was then) the plan was scrapped. This was after spending a lot of money getting it ready and even advertising for Serco staff to run it.

locals were worried about groups of men hanging around the countryside. Worried about house prices being affected, worried about crime, etc.

just can’t win, don’t want them in camps, don’t want them in hotels, won’t want them in a house next door.

i do agree there needs to be faster processing and weeding out refugees from economic migrants.

They're not illegal immigrants until their asylum applications are processed and their status determined.

The biggest problem in the UK is ignorance, not immigrants. If those protesting outside hotels are so concerned about people coming to this country and sponging off, they should be enraged about the likes of Amazon, Google, Twitter (X), and all the other massive corporations who get lots of corporate welfare (our tax money) but pay no tax.

Neoliberal capitalism has led to this and it will only get worse. Even if net migration was brought down to zero, "our own" homeless and poor will still be in exactly the same dire situation as they are now. The narrative around migration and refugees is causing mass hysteria and misdirected anger in the most ignorant and gullible, which the likes of Farage are exploiting

Agree. Amazing how so many people can't see this.

No objection at all to asylum seekers being accommodated in hotels. Please can other homeless people be accommodated too? Rather than them sleeping in doorways, tents etc. Can we return to the pre-Thatcher days when local authorities had a responsibility to house those in need of housing?

Of course it's not true. You are trying to create hate on this thread.

Yes, this. Well explained!

Unfortunately, Thatcherism meant a significant reduction in social housing and an increase in homelessness. Sadly we can't turn the clock back.

I'm so sick of the black and white thinking on this topic, of course some of them are genuine asylum seekers looking for safety, and of course some of them are just piss taking economic migrates. They're humans, same as everyone else, a mix. The bigger point is how this country is meant to endlessly support it all when we have a failing NHS, a housing crisis, and over crowded schools. It is not bigoted to be concerned with this.

Her first few posts said it all. She tried to be vague and then used her position which if she had that position she wouldn't be posting it. Anyone who really works in drugs and alcohol knows the truth in why these people are homeless.

No I'm not. I was there. You weren't. You don't want to accept that then fine. However that is what is happening. Any calls to that hotel for an ambulance is prioritised over any other calls, no matter what it is. Don't believe me but I hope you don't live in that area and require any immediate assistance. I'm thankful I live over an hour away in a different catchment and there are hotels housing migrants here... yet.

I have nurses and paramedics in my family don't talk shit. You are trying to stir hate.

SOME homeless ppl will be addicts but there is no way EVERY homeless person is an addict. Child free ppl come bottom of the list for instance. Try getting housed if you are a poorer person who hasnt reproduced. Im sick of seeing the excuse that its the fault of the homeless for being homeless because they are all druggies or alkies when it simply isnt true. This stereotype and stigmatising creates resentment which wont help.

Calling asylum seekers illegal immigrants tells us all we need to know about OP’s thoughts.

Not at all. I'm not against illegal immigrants residing here and getting support to help them on their feet, contribute to society and live a good life. There is absolutely no hate from me towards them at all, however I'm just telling you the truth. That is what is happening but it's not their fault. It's the government, head of policing and the emergency services. It's a broken system and unfortunately the public are paying for it.

I can't understand how people can argue that there are separate 'pots' of money or that immigration somehow has no impact on things or on British people. The fact is there are about 20 million more people in the country than there were in the 90s, but exactly the same number of ambulances, council houses, cities...when was the last time they built a new city? It takes YEARS just to build a new road, or a new reservoir, or a new hospital. Resources are finite. It's the sheer volume of people in a very short space of time that's the issue.

Do you? Well your paramedic family member should know exactly what I'm talking about. They may not disclose to you the truth because we're not allowed to talk about it and I shouldn't be saying it anyway, but there we go. See if they will have an honest conversation with you about it. I doubt the nurse will know. I'm talking front line, as soon as the call comes in, not once they are in hospital which they rarely get taken too. Its usual a safe and well update.

Good you ask. My thoughts? I hope they are having a multicultural buffet breakfast, Good lunch and dinner.

I'm not sad about the flags going up. We should use our national flag more to indicate pride in Britain.

I don't want either the Union Jack or the Cross of St George to be adopted by the far right. They belong to all of us, and if using them more, makes them an every day sight, then their use will cease to be threatening.

How are you going to do that without breaching the ECHR?

Yes, they are human beings. I'm not suggesting they're put on the street with nothing.

But the citizens of the UK are also human beings who deserve to be safe and supported.

And also, if getting to the destination means an extremely dangerous boat trip after time sleeping rough or in camps, it makes more sense to have the fit, strong male to get here, get everything in place, get somewhere to live, a network of friends/family/people from the same country/faith/speaking the same language and then apply for the wife/mother/children to be able to enter safely without going through the same level of danger in the journey.

That's what you say. If you are made homeless through no fault of your own you are going to stay with people you know. A lot of people do sofa surf until they have found their feet. A friend of mine was telling me the other day her brother has left prison has been given a flat. There is no excuse. He was in prison for cohesive control and domestic abuse against his girlfriend and children.

UK law doesn’t trump international law dear.

Maybe stop using ChatGPT as your source of information?

We are bound by the Refugee Convention and ECHR.

The Acts you so confidently quoted, well copied and pasted, contradict our international obligations, are pretty useless, and I doubt are widely enforced.

I know it really upsets you, but the fact is that claiming asylum in any country you wish is legal.

How do you know they're here illegally?

Or do you mean asylum seekers and legal immigrants?

My mother was a refugee in 1940 when her family had to flee Nazi occupation. I am happy that she and her family were offered a place of refuge as they had nothing. She went on to build a wonderful life and family.

I think we should remember the real people behind the click bait headlines and racists spouting their venom.

I don't think the Government have got it right yet but we absolutely cannot turn our backs on a huge world problem. I don't know what the answer is - I wish I did.