Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

When a call comes into the emergency services from a listed hotel housing migrants controllers have been instructed to deal with the incidents immediately. Doesn't matter what it's regarding, sometimes as simple as an argument has broken out or someone feeling unwell, police officers/ambulances are redirected to the hotel. They have priority over any on going situation. There was an incident once involving an ambulance being redirected due to an asylum seeker complaining of a sore head whilst the was a 50 minute wait in that area for assistance including a 70 yr old male with a suspected heart attack. There is a well known hotel branch in a certain city that is calling out the police at least 5 times a day and they are on their knees with not enough support or staff to accommodate this huge demand.

Oh.

Lol.

Don't bring TR into this, that's so yawn.
You need to speak to the police about how much crime has gone up in the last few years, assaults, shop lifting and driving without the required license insurance etc. I know a few and they have told me that it is mainly immigrant men they are dealing with day to day.

What has she said that was 'horribly ignorant and racist'?

That’s not true
trouble or violence in a migrant hotel should be prioritised- high population in a small area is always high risk.

a headache over a heart attack didn’t happen

Where do you get this it's all young men? It's families.

I think there was more of an expectation of cultural assimilation in those days.

Unfortunately, I believe you are correct. It's a shame for the genuine asylum seekers.

It's difficult. They are going through the process and therefore need to be placed somewhere. Unless we're going to adopt a Trump style "alligator alley" and pen them up in compounds, then where are we meant to put them?

We have several hotels in our town which were (I don't know if they all still are) closed to customers, because they were housing those going through the asylum process. At least one, which was our only 4* hotel in the area, is now still housing them, but is also taking bookings from the public, but with no restaurant or bar facilities, and the most recent Trip Advisor reviews say that the paying customers found it very uncomfortable being there with asylum seekers.

The issue that I have is that the local authorities use hotels to house those who are seeking permanent housing. Now that they seem to be largely occupied with asylum seekers, where are the LAs meant to house those who are going through the homelessness process? It was difficult enough to find accommodation for them, without having the hotels closed to them as well.

How many UK born homeless people you got living in your house, then?

It's the most ludicrous of all arguments.

It is the law that asylum claimants are provided with accommodation whilst their claim is being processed.... Why on earth you'd want this not to be the case, I can't fathom.
The hotels are in use for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the ineptitude of the last government causing a backlog of such proportion that the numbers of people needing to be accommodated couldn't be done through council owned or HMO properties.
Private contracts were awarded some time ago to find accommodation for asylum claimants, with a few hotel chain owners offering their buildings at a premium.

Secondly, this is just one of the knock on effects of successive governments not building enough housing, particularly post Right to Buy.

Governments have done a lot to ensure that accommodation is available to homeless people. You'll find that the rough sleepers are often out because of rules governing the accommodation provided.
Maybe if asylum claimants weren't required to check in to their former hotel accommodation, some of them would be joining in rough sleeping and begging.

There are, of course, legitimate concerns around the (globally) growing number of refugees and asylum claimants, and of course, as I'm sure you'll know, the overwhelming majority settle in neighbouring countries.

Though is endless, nonsensical, misinformed rhetoric is not helpful to people's understanding of this complex situation, nor helpful in putting any reasonable measures in place.

Every time this is brought up, it's like playing a game of idiot bingo, and depressingly, continues to be no matter how many times the actual situation is laid out.

What a response "Did I?" That's why we are in the shit we are in. Not specifically you English people in this country did take in Ukrainians. It did happen but not asylum seekers how strange.

Illegal immigrants are not the same group of people as asylum seekers. Would be happy to put up a woman asylum seeker but as a woman living on her own I wouldn't feel able to give a home to a lone man.

HTH.

Every time this is brought up, it's like playing a game of idiot bingo, and depressingly, continues to be no matter how many times the actual situation is laid out.

Yes, can agree with that one for sure, but perhaps not in the way it was intended.

Well it did. I personally dealt with that incident and it's not just trouble or violence. ANY call from thoss hotels is an immediate response. You can stick your head in the sand and refuse to believe it but those on the front line see and deal with it everyday.

You think that designer sportswear is real?

Of course iPhones are available cheaply on the black market throughout the Third World.

Perhaps your position is a tad absolutist. Pretty sure the vape shop in my naice village is owned by a right wing fellow. I will leave you to guess his ethnicity.

I think the whole system needs changing. We should stop accepting them, turn the boats back, stop funding their lawyers.

People fleeing war still need to make a living where they end up. And that benefits the country that grants them asylum. What are they expected to do otherwise?

Stay out of their country simples

An ambulance was not prioritised on a headache call over a heart attack. You are lying.

It's not the British people though is it? It's the stinking British governments...and they are all as bad as each other.

awww look it’s a virtue signaller leftie running it’s mouth in hope of debate. I have not said she is hysterical, that’s you being inflammatory.

You know exactly what I'm talking about unless you live somewhere this isn’t happening.

Whenever we have been at War our men fought for our country - those men are fleeing War, leaving loved ones behind.

I have lived in the Middle East and have experience of Asylum Seekers in a more recent career, the culture is that the females in the family are not valued in the way most of us imagine

If you are a British born parent living in a damp mouldy council bedsit with your child, and someone without a child, who arrived yesterday and has never contributed anything to the UK, and has no right to be here, gets put in a clean dry hotel room, that will inevitably create anger and resentment.

The phrase hotel room conjures up an image of comfort that probably isn't accurate but it doesn't help.

I think the family and friends of the victims of refugees who commit sexual assault, are reasonable to want them put on the first flight home, because those individuals don't deserve our welcome and have misogynistic beliefs that make them unfit for UK society.

So I can see why there are protests.

For everyone else, there is an uneasy acknowledgement that we already have major housing, employment, health and education problems, and perhaps we need to focus on fixing those first. The UK was not the first safe country any of them reached, and the fact that the rules are being ignored doesn't help.

They aren’t seeking asylum from France. Or any of the other countries they’ve passed through. They are seeking to from where they’ve fled from.

It’s only the media spin that claims they’ve sought it from France. France just happens to be the last country they were in. Many have been through Germany, Belgium, Turkey and many others.

If safe routes were available we could make sure everyone took their fair share in a more controlled manner. But they aren’t.