Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

Goodness. Someone shares their negative experience and you instantly go "Not all men."

A joke!

@downwiththatsortof Do you know the percentage of those that are doing it illegally? I'm asking because I'd really like to know how we combat this, do we stop all those who are seeking asylum, turn our backs, and close our borders?

A) logistically, they can't possibly all stay in the first country they arrive in.

B) but a lot of them do! 67% of refugees resettle in neighbouring countries. Turkey currently hosts approx 4 million refugees, compared to about half a million in the UK. Germany, France, Italy and Spain all received many more applications for asylum last year than the UK did.

www.unhcr.org/refugee-statistics

Fuck me - how callous can one get?

These are human beings - same as you and me.

although some attitudes are devoid of any human emotion it’s questionable.

Yes but your OP didn't have any chat really

I was talking to one of the children of the families I am working with. She has recently been housed with her mother and brother , her Dad was killed by the taliban. I asked her what her experience of the hotels were like. She said her and her mother and brother were in one room. She didn’t like it because they were not allowed to play anywhere, if they went in the hotel grounds they had to have an adult with them, she is 11. Her mother is disabled. So she just stayed in the room all the time. The hotel is in the middle of nowhere. No shop, nothing nearby.
They have a flat now. She’s happy there but misses her friends and her Dad. Children at her school have been kind mostly.
These are people, with stories.
Feel ashamed to be British right now with all this rhetoric

Asylum from France? As that's where the boats are coming from. Be kind whataboutery and gaslighting should be ignored and ridiculed.
People hopping on a boat from France are illegal immigrants. I'm not going to play along with the "asylum seeker" bullshit as they are travelling from France. No matter where they originated from they are choosing to come here from France. It's an illegal, queue jumping act, not some valiant life saving desperate measure. It forces them to be dealt with immediately by the UK government rather than go through proper application channels in the first safe country and frankly it's not my problem. I don't want my taxes paying for it. That doesn't make me a toothless racist and even if I were a toothless racist my opinion would still be valid.

It has always been the case that men went first. The US for example was settled for generations, including from the UK, that started with one male from the family going ahead, getting setttled and sending for family via a conventional route. A mother with a child will find it exponentially more difficult to work and care for her child at the same time in a new country with no language knowledge. A lone male will be able to work at whatever job he can get at any hour of the day. And arguably, families arriving with children will be even more of a burden on the system. Also, women and children are much more vulnerable for trafficking. The estimated 300,000 children still missing from US immigration camps is chilling, and that was under the very noses of the authorities. It just take a little rational thought to answer the question of "why single men".

I live in London and there is a "hotel" (it isn't standard nice hotel accommodation is it?!) about 300m from where I live. Given the size of it I would image it could house 500 people, but I have not heard a peep about them causing issues in the local community.
I also agree with previous posters about the previous government leaving them to rot in this accommodation with long processing times etc. Maybe they need to be given something to do, helped to assimilate.

Re the homeless in the UK, a lot of people who are on the streets are there for all sorts of reasons. There are places for them to stay but some choose not to, some refuse to follow the rules or don't have the ability (mental health, addiction) to follow the rules. Migrants in hotels have no impact on street homelessness. We also have far too many UK citizens being housing in "hotels" long term without a proper home.

On a side note, most people in this country strive to make their lives better, to earn more money and be able to afford a better life. I accept many of the migrants are economic migrants, so also humans striving for a better life. Maybe have some empathy about the fact that for them a better life involves paying smugglers and risking their lives to get somewhere that doesn't really give them much. I don't doubt that most people on here would do what they could to make their and their families lives better if they were living in shit.

Also, the migrants are not the biggest problem in our country, even though Nige (and the boats are his fault as we had agreements that stopped them before Brexit) would tell you it is.

It was well reported on at the time troops pulled out of Afghanistan so no idea how people missed it -unless they don’t follow current affairs

Nobody is claiming asylum from France. Don’t be deliberately obtuse, it’s fucking embarrassing 😂

That's debatable. The funding for asylum hotels comes from our overseas aid budget, so if not spent here, would be sent abroad. Whereas money spent on asylum hotels goes into the UK economy, employing local staff and suppliers, who in turn pay UK taxes back into the UK Treasury.

Not saying I agree with appropriation of the Aid budget, BTW, just that Government spending isn't all money lost.

You are proving my point. Enjoy my ridicule 😂

I’m embarrassed for you.

It is not illegal to claim asylum. Anywhere. It’s international law, your opinion is irrelevant because it’s not based in fact. If people choose to cross from France to claim asylum here it is there LEGAL right to do so.

Or maybe your just uneducated

not disputing that - agree

@menopausalfart Why would you destroy your passport / ID if you want to claim asylum? It would prove you were legitimate, but it also shows where you came in to Europe (hence getting rid of it). https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2022/02/24/98-of-channel-boat-migrants-have-no-passport/

I couldn’t give a flying fuck about your “ridicule you loser 🤣🤣
You’re so far off the mark, just spouting clouded, hateful, uneducated waffle.

i said a bit more than that. I pointed out that we are being fed a load of data about migrants and their level of criminality that probably isn’t true.

I also pointed out that even in a very multicultural town, British men can be a major problem.

I did also sympathise with the poster. I probably should have been a more effusive.

Have you lived in Tehran? I was spat at by women on the streets for being a Westermer. Have you lived in Nigeria? It wasn’t war torn when I lived there. Have you been to Albania? A beautiful country and very pleasant.

They should not be in hotels. We should make coming here less appealing. its a disgrace. I am sure everyone who supports putting these people into hotels will be happy to house them in their spare rooms now.

So you go on exciting holidays and do activities after pestering people to pay for them?

Wonderful. Completely deflects away from the racism.

Thank God for chatgpt so we don't have to listen to recycled hearsay and nonsense
What the Illegal Migration Act 2023 Does

1. Inadmissibility of Asylum and Human Rights Claims

• The Act amends the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 so that individuals who arrive in the UK illegally—meaning they travel via a safe third country or irregular route—can have their asylum, human rights, or modern slavery claims declared "inadmissible". That means the UK will not examine the substance of their claim.This includes:
• No right of appeal against an inadmissibility decision.
• Decisions may still be challenged via judicial review, but that does not delay the person’s removal
• The list of "safe countries of origin" has been extended beyond EU states to include Albania, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland, with provisions allowing Ministers to amend the list by regulation.
• For example, nationals from those designated safe countries can be assumed to have made inadmissible claims unless exceptional circumstances are shown

There's more but sounds like you're wrong. Some ridicule as this wasn't hard to find 😂😂😂

The hotel owners make a fortune from it. Look up the bloke who owns Brittania Hotels. They're usually hotels you would've paid £35 a night for. Now they charge about £150 a night to the government, saying they include food (probably crap) and security. It's a scam.

These protesters should be screaming outside the hotel owners houses, or outside the Home Office. Too much effort though I suppose.