Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

There are indeed whole families houses in these places but they are often housed with other similar families. My school took in 40 children from 10 families. 9 of the families came here legally with them being transported out of Syria and Afghanistan by our government. The other came on a boat then brought his family over once he had claimed asylum. This was the safer option than his pregnant wife and 5 kids being on a boat.
Some families were them rehomes after a few months to another city and they had no say in there they went and were separated from the families they had formed a bind with at the hotel (more like apartments which are more suitable for families). This hotel is a few streets from mine. Never had any issues or even knew it was used for this until they came to school.

The problem isn’t immigrants, the problem is the vast swathes of people who take a lot more than they give, feel entitled and don’t contribute to society socially culturally or financially.
Generations of British families who have never worked - their children don’t even understand what a job is. Immigrants have added a great deal to British society and will often do the jobs your average Brit won’t.
Very easy to turn it on immigrants when the societal problem is much greater.

They are ALL looking for an economic advantage. If they just needed to flee, there are many safe countries closer than the UK.

Because the thread title was so obviously goady.

That's an issue.

But for those of us who work, pay our taxes, and still can't afford a dentist, it's frustrating.

There aren't any jobs that the average British people won't do. But the money has to be right. Allowing mass immigration has allowed employers to keep wages low instead of letting them rise to their natural level.

Yes, I am for real.

I teach Afghanis, both sexes. You seem to be of the belief that all Afghani men follow the same beliefs as the Taliban, is that correct?

because they’ll know who was processed, who was on list for removal and who wasn’t on the plane when they were due to be removed.

How do you know John from no 9 Billy Street has disappeared?!

I don't think we can talk about Irish people being examples of legal migration. I mean, in the UK they were, but we have LONG history of illegal migration in the US. So many Irish people went on holiday visas and stayed and got cash in hand jobs. The Irish were delighted to turn a blind eye to immigration law for years.

It’s not really possible to live on benefits for generations post welfare reform. Out of work benefits are tiny and time limited.

i can’t really think of a way generations of objectively healthy people can refuse to work and live on benefits now. It’s a bit outdated.

we certainly don’t have enough workers in our economy: but that’s population, demographics etc

This just isn’t true

Term you’re looking for is asylum seeker
if they aren’t accommodated in a hotel where do they go?rough sleep? Homeless whereabouts unknown? What about the vulnerable and the children?

Afghan society is incredibly varied. The Taliban reflect the values found in some of the more traditional Pashtun communities, where women have always lived extremely restricted lives. However, e.g. in Kabul women were happily wearing shorts and going to university pre-Taliban (the first time round). You can't suggest that all men have similar values to the Taliban, and just because women are hugely restricted and oppressed under their rule this doesn't reflect the views of all men. I have a number of Afghan students (male and female) and the men are indeed very respectful - they are likely to be self-selected as they left Afghanistan so were obviously not happy with the current Government, and also are highly educated. But I certainly don't think generalisation is at all helpful.

The taliban are made up of... Afghani men. When the Americans left Afghanistan, the majority of the populace celebrated and allowed the Taliban in with open arms.....

I don't argue about how diverse it is. Quite frankly I dare care. There are cultural incompatibilities and how are we to ascertain which ones won't sexually assault women?

Great post

Didn't take you long to get to the bigotry, did it?

Lack of comprehension should be illegal.

Seeking asylum makes you an asylum seeker. NOT an illegal immigrant.

It’s really not difficult to understand. And anyone is allowed to enter a country and claim asylum under international law. I could go to the Maldives tomorrow and do the same. Of course they won’t grant it because I was lucky enough to be born here and not in an unsafe country.

Sorry to hear you went through that. It must have been awful,

It doesn't mean that all or even many foreign men do this. When I was growing up, I had many bad experiences with men when I was walking home from school. As far as I know they were all British. I had a man waving his penis at me when I was about 8. Another one when I was about 11. When I was a teenager, I constantly had men stopping in cars making lewd suggestions. I lived in a town with an incredibly high foreign-born population - mostly from Pakistan - but there were many other nationalities as well. From memory, not one of them was Asian or has a foreign accent.

About 10 days ago, Robert Jenrick - a shadow minister quoted some actually figures about migrants and sexual assault - he was essentially saying that migrants are dangerous to wows . BBC Verify looked into it and said he had taken the data of context and he was incorrect to use it in the way he had. They did say that there was a possibility that one of his figures was accurate but either way he was wrong to use the figures because one was definitely inaccurate and nobody could be sure about the other one. The trouble is if somebody in his position is quoting statistics it sounds like he has properly investigated it and he knows what he is talking about. Essentially he was lying,

We are not the world's lifeboat. We have relatively few asylum seekers (even last year) compared to other countries. Iran, Turkey and Germany are by far the biggest host nations. Our public services are indeed stretched by European standards, but that's largely because taxation on most people is very low by European standards. That's our choice.

Young men don't come here by illegal routes to stay in 4* hotels. They come to bring their family members later.
Greece made it very clear that if you enter uninvited, your family will never be allowed to join you and so the numbers reduced drastically.

As for those misguided protestors getting hotel accommodation closed. Be careful what you wish for.
The occupants will be transferred to HMOs and the current renters made homeless. LLs will be cashing in and the renting sector only available to higher earners.
Just read of another 30 frail or vulnerable people given 2 months notice to find somewhere. Conversion to government funded HMO.
The incoming men will be spread all across the country, maybe next door to protestors, eventually becoming part of the shadow economy that already loses us £200 billion a year.
HMOs are going to cause far more problems than hotels, but the protestors haven't thought it through.

They aren't allowed to work for so long that's not their fault

That's breathtaking, that is!

I think most of the people in this thread must be bots.

Nobody wants these "asylum hotels", except perhaps hotel owners!

With only 4% of boat arrivals leaving (and most of those being because of the deal to return Albanians) the Government might as well scrap the entire system and save the administrative costs as it's a total waste of time. These people are going nowhere.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2025/how-many-people-are-returned-from-the-uk

All the energies/policies and money need putting into preventing arrivals as, with the exception of Albanians, once they are here they are going nowhere.

I think all the "back log", "increased case workers" etc is just designed to obfuscate the fact that the system is entirely pointless.

I'll ask again, how many Afghanis have you spent time with? I'm guessing none. The Taliban have murdered lots of men and women. People were so terrified when the Americans left that they tried to hold onto the wheels of a jet. Did you not know this?!

Again, I work with Afghans on a daily basis. They are the most welcoming, courteous people.

We are putting them in Hotels largely because the last government gave up processing claims swiftly and efficiently. They explicitly dropped a service standard for claims processing time in 2019, for example. Image is from the Institute for Government website.