Grotesque, greedy, gullible, graceless, gaslighting, gormless, god-forsaken grifter - Trump thread #147

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Desperately seeking that Peace Prize.
May have to settle for the Hero of the Russian Federation award. Bigly sad.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5372669-still-dancing-the-tariff-tango-vlad-and-bibi-still-playing-him-like-a-fiddle-and-epsteins-list-must-be-written-in-invisible-ink-trump-thread-146

Just trying to remember that the quiet people are probably not MAGA and there are a lot more of them.

As above, it’s nice to see some people still have principles but sadly not enough. The ramifications for public health in the US now are huge, a whole generation is going to affected by these quacks and their insane theories.

The Coming MAGA Civil War.
When Trump goes, it’ll be rats in a sack.
https://open.substack.com/pub/chadbourn/p/the-coming-maga-civil-war?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

...Dr Jay Olshansky, the Professor in the School of Public Health at the University of Illinois at Chicago, has given Trump a lower than 75% chance of surviving his second term, based on publicly available information about his health.

How long until it’s treason to so much as mention the fact that the ‘king’ is mortal and might one day die….

You could a lot worse than revise (or study afresh, like many won't) the rise of Caesar and the civil wars (yes. Plural)* *that ripped Rome apart between 100BCE and Octavians final victory at Actium. And then realise what that bought in - the Imperial system and Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius (rare sane one) and Nero.

This all matters because the Founding Fathers were a bit too obsessed with their own learning (very common in the 18th century) and rather painfully modelled their idea of what a government could look like on the failed model of Rome. Presumably chuckling to themselves that of course "We are far too young and clever" to make the same mistakes.

It's looking like history will record that they failed big time. The Roman Republic stood for 500 years before it fell to Caesar.

It's really quite odd to see so much of history being re-enacted in the US Right now. Testament to Henry Ford, which seems appropriate.

I was under the delusion that historical revisionism was the purview of the Left, but clearly not, judging by Trump and his minions.

I do wonder if some of his MAGA supporters are carrying on with their lip-service to save face.
Ballots are secret, so we won't know for a while how many are keeping quiet or just nodding. 🤞

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That’s BAAAD, @SerendipityJane.

Hello all.

I've been absent for awhile and I wanted to give an explanation and say that my absence will be continuing for awhile.

My husband became suddenly and drastically ill in July. He was hospitalized over 9 times since then and is now in a care home. He's had an absolute personality transplant and the man I loved is now a complete stranger to me. He knows me, but has rewritten our life together and made me a villain. My heart is broken.

Being I'm in the US his care isn't covered by insurance nor does the US have a 'social safety net'. My life has been turned upside down both emotionally and financially to the point of having to consider either a legal separation or divorce in order to be able to preserve half of our joint assets for my own continuing living costs.

At this point I can't deal with Trump or the political situation so am bowing out until things are clearer and better in my life. I ask for prayers from the 'praying kind' and hope and good thoughts from all.

Hold your loved ones dear, life can change in an instant. Make good plans for your future, no matter how old you are.

God bless you all and thank you for the past, what, 10 years of good conversation. I'll be back if and when the 'Good Ship Across' rights itself.

Oh @AcrossthePond55 i am so, so sorry to hear your terrible news. Hopefully your sons (?) and other family are close by and are able to give you support.

i worried that your absence might be due to your husband's health but not in this way!

Life is great until it isn't.

much 'un-mumsnetty' love to you 💐

I am so sorry @AcrossthePond55 Sending you and your loved ones much love

I am so very sorry @AcrossthePond55 and am sending you much love and strength.

Oh @AcrossthePond55 , I'm so very sorry. How terrible.

Sending you all the hope and good wishes the ether can carry. I'll be holding you in my thoughts, whether you're posting or not.

Much love ♥️

I am very sorry, @AcrossthePond55. There really is nothing to say except sending all possible well-wishing, which I do.

@AcrossthePond55 I'm so very sorry to hear your news 💐 sending you love and virtual hugs.❤

flipping hell @AcrossthePond55 you've been through the mill!
sending positive vibes

Praying for you both and your family @AcrossthePond55 I’ll light a candle next time I can in church.

Another sending care and comfort, across the (small) pond. We have never met, nor will we; but I feel a close tie to you all even though I lurk in the quiet. Will be thinking of you often and hoping the Best Wishes have an effect x

💞 to all.

@AcrossthePond55 so sorry to hear this, another person in England who will be keeping you in their prayers 🙏🏻

And another, AcrossthePond, awful news. Stay strong and hopefully things will ìmprove soon. 💐

@AcrossthePond55 I'm so sorry to hear about your troubles. Sending you good thoughts an best wishes for the future. Take care of yourself.

@AcrossthePond55 I am so very sorry to hear this. You've always been a beacon of calm and common sense on this forum - also on the alcohol threads. I hope you manage to find a way through that gives you some kind of peaceful and stable future going forward, and I hope you will be able to grieve for the husband you have lost.