Labour isn't working - Thread 5

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working!

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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"I have no recollection"
"I don't accept that I did that"

The more I watch this car-crash of a government, the more I’m incredulous.

The whole Ricky Jones debacle is nuts. If this was from a right winger person there would be calls for him to be thrown in prison, key thrown away etc.

I’m waiting for parliament to resume after the Summer and hoping Kemi is going to go for Keir’s throat at PMQs. I don’t expect she will get an honest or full answer from the slippery eel but someone needs to hold him and his party of clowns to account.

Role on the next election!

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😂😂

Totally agree. It’s beyond belief

Oh no, that's just his defense... And we know that having ptsd doesn't count for shit when tweeting so that should come to nothing, right? All things being equal.

The difference is really something.

Anyway I must start doing my non work work now. x

Badenoch seems to have been pulling her punches all year. I think she has to come out fighting now.

Part of me thinks the Tories just have to sit back and allow Labour to continue to cock things up so the electorate vote for them as the default - which is what I think Labour did. But then, Reform are also looking attractive to many voters so Badenoch has to ensure the Tories don’t lose votes to them so they can’t sit back.

I don’t think there will be a second term with Labour in charge - and can you imagine the mess the incoming government will pick up?

The polling figures for the Tories are dreadful though. If the intention was to sit back and watch Reform implode then it looks like a miscalculation right now. Or it might be a masterclass in patience and winning formula.

I’m not looking forward to the next three months of soft leaks of potential tax rises creating panic…it was bad enough last year…

Yeh I don't think Tories stand a chance at the moment BUT if Jezza splits the Left vote then people may prefer voting Tory at a national election over Reform.
People like me who just want Labour out but at the moment there's no point voting anything other than Reform in my area.
I will vote Reform if needed but would prefer to vote Tory.

Badenoch was not my first choice as leader, but she has grown on me a lot. She has felt like the only grown up in the room recently.

I don't think she can afford to sit back and wait though, she needs to get herself out there and be heard. Plenty of people hate Labour, but don't want Reform. I really hope the tories step up and fill that gap.

I was worried yesterday though, when I heard that Jenrick was meeting with JD Vance, not Badenoch.

Both the main parties need to face that they’ve got few appealing people or policies, and get crisis meetings together to up their game and improve their offer…

Same where I live twisty. Tories don't even get a look it here, neither do the Lib Dems.

I hope Kemi is a mumsnetter and reads these threads. She’ll be getting the best advice for how to win the next election.

(Not really joking!)

*Defence barrister Hossein Zahir KC asked Mr Jones: "What is the difference between you and someone you might describe as neurotypical?"

"If I get emotional and distracted I come out with things I don't always mean," the councillor replied*

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Isn't that just being human?

Yet Lucy Connolly got 31 months jail for her tweet, which she similarly said she didn't mean.

Let's see whether justice depends on who you are and who you're inciting violence against.

I like to think so.
She did say 'labour isn't working' in the HoC recently 😉

When Labour got in I was sure they’d get two terms and possibly a third. I’m much more doubtful about that now.

The Tories best bet is to tread water and let Labour fuck up and hope that Reform eats itself - which isn’t unlikely given the history of splinter parties on the right.

Reform is really a one-issue party, or one-and-a-half if you include the vapour trail of Brexit. What they’ve said about the economy and the other big stuff isn’t remotely convincing. They don’t want to do anything meaningful about welfare, for example, because their main target regions have large numbers dependent on state support.

When ambitious, fractious politicians gather, there has to be a broad philosophy to hold them together, at least for the most part, and “the others are rubbish” isn’t a philosophy. I suspect that many Tories who defect find out that they’ve joined a protest group that can’t agree on anything beyond small boat immigration.

My present best guess at the next government is a Tory-Reform coalition. Although that might be perilous for both of them.

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Kemi is actually my MP but I am wondering if she will lose her seat to Reform at the next election. There seems to be such a swing to the right locally, with so many people that I know expressing support for Reform. Farage has celebrity friends in the area.

Labour promised “no tax rises for working people.” And now it looks like they’re raiding inheritances as well as taxing pensions after death, gutting reliefs for farmers, and slapping limits on family gifts - none of which they told us before the election. This isn’t protecting working people. It’s a stealth tax ambush and a betrayal of trust. These weren’t in the manifesto. They weren’t debated. They’re being forced through to cover Labour’s spending addiction. The sooner they are voted out of government, the better.

She might. It's a funny world when the pm is losing to the party with no name in his constituency and the leader of the opposition being outflanked by Reform in hers- neither challenging parties having enough MPs to fill a lift.

Quite. And we’re not going to see anything for it. The ravenous parasite of the unionised public services will take it all, for nothing in return.