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Labour isn't working - Thread 5

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TheNuthatch · 29/07/2025 14:33

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working!

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 07/08/2025 21:49

Absentmindedsmile · 07/08/2025 21:33

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ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 06:59

I hadn't realised that this was under discussion. Not sure how it flew under the radar - you'd think it would be relevant alongside the changes being made to the the education system.

Middle-class children ‘to be shut out of best schools’ in Labour equality crackdown

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/92792d350dd3f2bc

I wonder how enthusiastic Labour supporting leafy suburbers, shelling out the big bucks for the home in an outstanding school catchment, continue to relish the charge to rewrite the status quo with this change to current admission rules, affecting their own children and devaluing their home in one fell swoop.

It's all fun and games heckling other people whose children have had their education disrupted in the wake of this new government until your own kid is being shipped out to Grange Hill in the name of progress.

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 07:21

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 06:59

I hadn't realised that this was under discussion. Not sure how it flew under the radar - you'd think it would be relevant alongside the changes being made to the the education system.

Middle-class children ‘to be shut out of best schools’ in Labour equality crackdown

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/92792d350dd3f2bc

I wonder how enthusiastic Labour supporting leafy suburbers, shelling out the big bucks for the home in an outstanding school catchment, continue to relish the charge to rewrite the status quo with this change to current admission rules, affecting their own children and devaluing their home in one fell swoop.

It's all fun and games heckling other people whose children have had their education disrupted in the wake of this new government until your own kid is being shipped out to Grange Hill in the name of progress.

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Yeh this was snuck under about 8 months ago. I will LMAO if all the smug champagne socialists on here who support VAT on education, get allocated shit schools because of their postcode.

I did post it a few times but then quite predictably got shot down for being hyperbolic and dramatic 🤣 because Labour would never do that!

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ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 07:27

Just catching up, I'm on holiday and the internet is patchy. Yes, totally agree it's a mess. Homeless ministers making tenants homeless, a safeguarding minister that subverted requests for a safeguarding enquiry, an anti-corruption minister on charges for corruption. Starmer must just thank his lucky stars he didn't make Haigh the Minister in charge of fraud.

Badenoch's strategy to sit back and watch Labour combust will only be effective if she can claw back some enthusiasm from the electorate. I'm not sure there will be much time though, it won't be long before Jenrick will be on manouvres in earnest.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 07:29

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 07:21

Yeh this was snuck under about 8 months ago. I will LMAO if all the smug champagne socialists on here who support VAT on education, get allocated shit schools because of their postcode.

I did post it a few times but then quite predictably got shot down for being hyperbolic and dramatic 🤣 because Labour would never do that!

See, I completely missed it. But then I do go through patches is ostrich mode.

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 07:36

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 07:27

Just catching up, I'm on holiday and the internet is patchy. Yes, totally agree it's a mess. Homeless ministers making tenants homeless, a safeguarding minister that subverted requests for a safeguarding enquiry, an anti-corruption minister on charges for corruption. Starmer must just thank his lucky stars he didn't make Haigh the Minister in charge of fraud.

Badenoch's strategy to sit back and watch Labour combust will only be effective if she can claw back some enthusiasm from the electorate. I'm not sure there will be much time though, it won't be long before Jenrick will be on manouvres in earnest.

And all Labour do is spend £££ of taxpayer money on comms saying everything is going great. Reeves is taking credit for interest rate cut FFS.....completely gaslighting everyone that it has been cut cos economy is tanking

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 07:49

Yeah, the rate rate drop isn't on the back of lowering inflation, is it? The banks seem to be sending up flairs about joblessness and a faultering economic landscape but Reeves is still faking it until she makes it.

EasternStandard · 08/08/2025 07:52

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 07:21

Yeh this was snuck under about 8 months ago. I will LMAO if all the smug champagne socialists on here who support VAT on education, get allocated shit schools because of their postcode.

I did post it a few times but then quite predictably got shot down for being hyperbolic and dramatic 🤣 because Labour would never do that!

Yes it’ll be you’re ‘scaremongering’. The same Labour lot went on about the welfare cuts being media speculation and ‘wait for the white paper’ until they were wrong. And even then Labour can hit them with something and they’ll be batting for more on their behalf.

Lots will back it as they’re loyal and their dc are likely out of education. Anything for Starmer and co.

Meanwhile it will impact many others. Labour doing their usual break everyone, lower the level everywhere.

Whatever gets them out can’t come soon enough.

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 07:53

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 07:49

Yeah, the rate rate drop isn't on the back of lowering inflation, is it? The banks seem to be sending up flairs about joblessness and a faultering economic landscape but Reeves is still faking it until she makes it.

Problem is she's incapable of "making it".

EasternStandard · 08/08/2025 07:57

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 07:36

And all Labour do is spend £££ of taxpayer money on comms saying everything is going great. Reeves is taking credit for interest rate cut FFS.....completely gaslighting everyone that it has been cut cos economy is tanking

Of course it’s all they’ve got. That’s it. A rate cut due to a stalking economy that was divided because there’s also inflation to think about.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 08/08/2025 08:16

I’m not sure exactly how to put this, but I’ve always thought that governments attract simply expressed ‘personalities’. A sort of single phrase to sum them up.

The one that stands out for Starmer’s Labour is ‘hypocrisy’. After this latest embarrassment with the homelessness minister chucking out tenants it’s overwhelming.

I can’t understand why the gross hypocrisy of a party that in opposition argued loudly non-stop against so much that they’re now doing in government or in their private lives hasn’t taken hold in the public mind more strongly. Labour’s preachiness in opposition looks like a bad joke now.

Everyone detests hypocrites. They’re usually very dishonest generally. And it all began on day one - it’s not even as though they’ve been forced into bad conduct or doing in government what they previously condemned, because events and facts changed. They’re just shameless, self-regarding hypocrites.

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 08:55

Nice graphic this morning

Labour isn't working - Thread 5
RockaLock · 08/08/2025 08:56

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 06:59

I hadn't realised that this was under discussion. Not sure how it flew under the radar - you'd think it would be relevant alongside the changes being made to the the education system.

Middle-class children ‘to be shut out of best schools’ in Labour equality crackdown

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/92792d350dd3f2bc

I wonder how enthusiastic Labour supporting leafy suburbers, shelling out the big bucks for the home in an outstanding school catchment, continue to relish the charge to rewrite the status quo with this change to current admission rules, affecting their own children and devaluing their home in one fell swoop.

It's all fun and games heckling other people whose children have had their education disrupted in the wake of this new government until your own kid is being shipped out to Grange Hill in the name of progress.

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Wow.

So say a “working class” child gets into a great school because of this, and gets a “middle class” job as a result - in theory their children would then be “shut out” of a similar school?

Thats not really a great story to sell, surely: if you better yourself, your children will be penalised Confused

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 08:59

RockaLock · 08/08/2025 08:56

Wow.

So say a “working class” child gets into a great school because of this, and gets a “middle class” job as a result - in theory their children would then be “shut out” of a similar school?

Thats not really a great story to sell, surely: if you better yourself, your children will be penalised Confused

Labour have also said they will do the same for university admissions and jobs. They've already started ie Civil Servicd internships announced earlier this week.

They do NOT want people to have aspirations ornbe socially mobile unless they are from union backgrounds

TheNuthatch · 08/08/2025 09:02

Ha go on Jezza! Love that twisty.

I was just reading about Ali's constituency. She only has a majority of 1700. At the GE, an independent came 2nd, Greens 3rd.
She's toast.

Listening to the Labour rep on the news this morning (sorry, no clue who she was), there was zero acceptance of fault. She defended Ali as she had done nothing wrong.
This drives me insane! Ali hasn't probably been forced to resign, yet they come out defending her. Either she's done something wrong, or she hasn't.

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TheNuthatch · 08/08/2025 09:03

RockaLock · 08/08/2025 08:56

Wow.

So say a “working class” child gets into a great school because of this, and gets a “middle class” job as a result - in theory their children would then be “shut out” of a similar school?

Thats not really a great story to sell, surely: if you better yourself, your children will be penalised Confused

Yes. Talk about a race to the bottom. Batshit.

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TheNuthatch · 08/08/2025 09:04

Thanks for the gifted article @ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera
Enjoy your holiday 😁

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TheNuthatch · 08/08/2025 09:09

This week's FON poll.

Labour isn't working - Thread 5
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ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 09:10

Thanks @TheNuthatch and you're welcome.

Can't believe the party with no name has the pm on the ropes in his own constituency. How embarrassing.

TheNuthatch · 08/08/2025 09:12

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 09:10

Thanks @TheNuthatch and you're welcome.

Can't believe the party with no name has the pm on the ropes in his own constituency. How embarrassing.

Delicious isn't it 😁

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Arrearing50 · 08/08/2025 09:15

I don’t think most people have understood that labour is lurching to the left - they’ve got no money to spend and tinkering with admissions to everything is cheap…people ought to be very worried about that.

the homelessness thing stinks worse than I thought - she took actions labour itself is looking to ban!

again, where’s the intelligence? Quite a foreseeable shit show that one…

Homelessness minister quits after ‘hiking rent at house by £700 a month’

www.thetimes.com/article/12a44b67-ade7-4678-a3ce-265c71ea7f78?shareToken=bf744cb66917440634524abeabe5d31c

EasternStandard · 08/08/2025 09:15

twistyizzy · 08/08/2025 08:55

Nice graphic this morning

Go on Jezza. Another new bar colour to upset the apple cart.

Arrearing50 · 08/08/2025 09:17

Redrawing catchments, mucking about with university admissions etc - all this is exactly the kind of thing a penniless govt can do easily to create havoc and headlines.

they’ll need plenty of squirrels to change the story from tax rises and a tanking economy.

and, Starmer, this isn’t fixing the foundations, that would require money…

MrsGuyOfGisbo · 08/08/2025 09:19

Was there at some point a protocol whereby if x number of constituents asked for it that any election could be forced? I might be thinking about another country. Would be so sweet if the Jezza party supporters in H&SP could do that 😂😂😂😂

EasternStandard · 08/08/2025 09:23

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 08/08/2025 09:10

Thanks @TheNuthatch and you're welcome.

Can't believe the party with no name has the pm on the ropes in his own constituency. How embarrassing.

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