Labour isn't working - Thread 5

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working!

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Completely agree and welcome. The hypocrisy stinks.

Yes, I was always worried that they would engineer the performance of change in the absence of any money to make any meaningful changes to give the impression of 'doing something'.

But I think this might be a misstep. People don't like change when they feel impoverished. It just gives them the feeling that their lives are precarious.

So okay for you to be 'LMAO' at the smug parents who are 'champagne socialists on here and support vat' when it is the children who would suffer getting 'shit' schools? Yet individuals who want to sock it to the parents when it is the children who suffer are the worst kind of humans. Hypocritical much.

I’m completely against all of labour’s education changes so far - not a single one is good. But this is what labour has created, pitting people against each other…

Yes, exactly.
It's not any of the posters on this thread forcing children to suffer, and enjoying it, it's Labour.

Agree. If all we see is a levelling down it’s not going to be the positive change they presumably sold in.

It was easy to see pre GE but many did believe the lies.

Another mess of their own making based on their 'eat the rich' mentality.
https://news.sky.com/story/why-rachel-reeves-may-want-to-rethink-one-of-her-pivotal-policies-13408251

It's no better than other posters' socking it to the rich jibes.

Imagine if that happened in the PM's constituency 🙈

Now, come on. Everyone likes to see the schadenfreuders eat a bit of their own misfortune crumble.

At least we have agreement it’s a shit policy from Labour.

And I’m not even sure they have the support of the people it’s aimed at, it’s mostly MC public sector who are their base. They are more likely to rely on good state schools.

Totally agree they need to spin change but due to fiscal incompetence it’s damaging stuff like this instead. What a mess.

Yet again reducing a parent’s ability to help their kids - I can’t see how it’ll be popular. The government, LEA, schools, they don’t have your kids best interests at heart like almost all parents do.

it’s as though all policy is aimed at centralising due to make up for awful and absent parenting…at the expense of ones doing their best.

I’d say a fair few at the BBC and universities rely on good state schools too. It’s a weak line but not even for those who support them.

Hoisted by their own petard. That's just a more polite way of saying schadenfreude.

Oh I've stopped playing nice now! Ever since Labour targeted children like mine and posters on MN cheered them on! The same posters who spend ££ on tutors + houses in best catchments.

So okay for you to say that then given all your outrage at others doing exactly the same thing? Righto

Yeh pretty much in the sense that I've constantly been attacked on here. I spent 12 months being nice, respectful and polite in the face of some really horrific comments just because of the type of school I send my child to.

So I stopped playing nice on MN cos it gets you nowhere.

The very posters who smugly buy their own kids advantages and who have been attacking me for the last 18 months may now feel the spite of Labour.

It's called karma and I make no apologies.

Don’t worry about it. Some posters have been relentless with the attacks.

At least we’re past pretending this is a good policy.

Oh I'm not worried 😊 the majority of the press also agree it's a shit policy now and we have both Tories + Reform who have promised to over turn it.

I mean, I'm one of those people who bought into the best school catchment, forking out for the premium that came with the house.

Fortunately, I've just got my youngest into secondary so we'll have outrun this bit of labour destruction - although it might still bite financially.

But I don't think TwistyIzzy would be popping the champagne if I was one of those whose children was in the firing line though- because I wasn't one of those twats who cheered on the Vat policy changes - knowing the disruption to children, knowing that it wouldn't net the treasury much more than pocket money - and, iirc, still insulting her and her child as they did so.

So 🤷🏼‍♀️ put your pointy finger away CinnamonSquirrels because it's ridiculous.

Good the damage by Labour on education from both policies is astounding. And we’ll have the SEN part too.

So bad. I’m glad two of my dc will be through. The last is in a good state rn for a few more years.

Exactly 🎯 I don't want any child to be impacted but, for the posters who were merrily cheering on this policy, I wouldn't object to some schadenfreude.

Same and agree. Both policies are destructive to education.

Can somebody explain this new school intake policy please? I’ve googled and been to the BBC and Sky sites but I can’t see anything.

Is it actually new? Is it genuine policy, within a bill etc? Who announced/promoted it? What’s proposed and where?

Thanks - I did have a good look before asking.

It's the plan to update the equality act which would necessitate a remodelling of public services to flatten advantages achieved by socio-economic class - the consequences of which would include leapfrogging working class kids into schools in middle class catchment areas and displacing local middle class kids.

The article includes other flattenings in public services, including the NHS or public services employment

These are policies that are being explored by the labour party and consultation for that change came to a conclusion in June.

Given the speed with which some ideologically charged ideas have been jettisoned through the policy stages with this government without much time for a cautionary, 'hang on a minute', I wouldn't be take false comfort from it's current lack of development.