Ozzy Osbourne - we shouldn't speak ill of the dead but has his domestic abuse and serial infidelity been glossed over in all the eulogies?

[mids2019]

Maybe because he was a rocker firm the 70s but it seems Ozzy's real character flaws have been warped into a 'charismatic hell raiser ' image to be admired.

In reality should we also be critical about his actions and views?

It gives victims the freedom to say in public what happened to them, if they should choose to do so. I am against pressuring victims to be quiet now that their abuser has died, because "we don't speak ill of the dead".

Nothing to do with being rich and famous and doing charity work. Have you ever read an obituary or gone to a funeral where they've detailed the wrong doings of the deceased?

No? Me either 🙄.

So what???? If he was a child molester would you say the same thing? Scum is scum. Dead or alive. This 'never speak ill of the (evil, abusive) dead' has really got to stop!

We know what he has told us. And what he has done on camera. That is more than enough to know he was evil scum that should rot.

No, we won't give it a rest! You saw the thread title, read it, and still decided to enter the thread. You could have scrolled past. So you give it a rest, @StiffAsAVicar .

Wow. You seem nice.

If you believe that denial, you will believe anything. You're easily convinced, it seems. They had reason to deny it; social services getting involved with a child who killed an animal, etc. Yet the quickness with which the camera panned away.... Nope, a huge cover up.

Occam's Razor!

That happens when people famous and otherwise pass away - haven’t you noticed whenever there’s a tragedy that the spokes people all comment on what lovely people they were? They can’t all be amazing, but when people die you put negativity aside and for the sake of their loved ones talk about the good things

Well I haven't shot 17 cats, bashed my spouse, choked them, etc so yeah, I am.

Your line must be quite low if a person telling an animal abuser and murderer is the 'bad' one. Have a hard long look in the mirror.

I couldn’t care less about his death. He was an abusive man who killed defenceless animals. Good riddance to the total waster!

Another one who saw the thread title, read the thread title, and still entered. Only to scold the OP.

NO, we shouldn't laud cheap 'charity' especially when it's done to cover up things, just as we don't laud Jimmy Saville or Michael Jackson's 'charity' work. You are not judged by a quick cheap cheque; you're judged by your actions. He shot 17 cats, tortured and killed other animals, bashed his wife, almost choked her to death, child neglect and abuse, and you want to talk about 'charity'? You know where you can get with that, @JustSawJohnny ! Stay out of the thread if truth and accountability upsets you. No one made you enter the thread!

Yes completely off his head for a lot of the time, abusive, violent and unfaithful to both of his wives, absent father to his children from his first marriage, animal cruelty - shoting cats etc.
I think this has all been glossed over/not mentioned.
Clearly a very talented musician who pretty much invented heavy metal and remained a proud brummie but there was definitely a very dark side to a lot of his behaviour

He did a concert just a couple of weeks ago that raised lots of money for charity and him and his wife or kids are in the press regularly.

None of us are perfect.

Exactly this. Said the same on the other thread about him.

The Times obituary pulled no punches at all, and included Osborne himself stating he put his first wife through hell. He started shooting cats as a teenager in the back lanes of Birmingham.

Sharon is the power behind the throne and from a very violent background herself. He didn't just shag groupies, he had long term affairs right up until his physical health stopped him.

Let's not forget the ants he snorted. Sharon never divorced him and was well aware of any shortcomings as she had known him when her father managed the band. Ozzy and his contract was a wedding gift.
So many perfect people on here. If you are an animal lover there is enough cruelty out there right now to deal with. Huffing about someone you didn't know about until this week seems odd to me.

Obituaries published in the press do list all the wrongdoing. Obviously family statements don't.

@mids2019 About the only thing these people cannot do is abuse dc. Just about anything else is airbrushed and fans don’t see it - so it’s ok. Pretty grim that we do that and they are not called out for what they are.

Wow. Wow...! Your bar is extremely low. No one needs to be 'perfect' to not molest children, or to not torture and kill defenceless animals, and beat and strangle your wife.

Have a word with yourself!

Did he molest children? I never heard that.

Poverty, trauma, substance abuse, shock value entertainment seem to have moulded his life. He provided an inside view of inter generational trauma and addiction in a wealthy setting, people are intrigued by that and sadly a lot of people can relate to different parts of it.

The animal cruelty was dispicable by today's standards, animal cruelty was more accepted years ago. People drowned kittens and puppies and poisoned animals a lot more than they do now. It was all wrong, but society just accepted it to a much greater degree. His drugged up actions were on the extreme end of the spectrum, the guy was flawed and unwell. It's a pity there wasn't more involvement from neutral people. Power and money corrupt people.

Hope the family can heal from the trauma they all witnessed and experienced.

Oh for goodness sake! Such drama! 😂

People don’t want reality to get in the way of a public outcry of grief.

Well I read the obituaries for the Yorkshire Ripper a few years ago and surprisingly they did detail his wrongs. So yeah depends on what the person did. OO was a violent, abusive piece of shit who tortured innocent animals, beat his wives, cheated repeatedly, treated his oldest children dreadfully and was just generally awful.

He was a lowlife druggy. He was also a pawn in other people’s games.

The music industry used him. Sharon certainly used him. But he didn’t care so long as he had drugs and women.

Both things can be true. He was revolting. He was also used to make money for people.

What is weird was that this was all very much common knowledge 20 years ago, but there has been a strange collective whitewashing and an attempt to relaunch him as a loveable rogue, “it was all theatre” etc. No, it wasn’t, and people used to know that.