What time do you think Rachel will hand in her notice tomorrow?

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I think if it's not in already tonight then it will be before 10am tomorrow.

Your opinion on the job of chancellor is valueless, unless you have economic knowledge along with a working knowledge of the governments current financial position.

Being given a vote doesn't make you informed. It makes you a British citizen over the age of 18.

The markets wobbled because it's acknowledged there's no one to replace her and whoever does eventually have to accept that poisoned chalice will probably break the fiscal rules. That's not a vote of confidence in Reeves.

If she’s so useless surely finding a replacement will be a walk in the park?

That’s an odd one. People post on politicians all the time.

People comment on all sorts of things they have no qualification to 🤷 that’s not news.

Everyone gets a vote. The pp’s has as much value as anyone’s.

Well yes, it's very hard to imagine anyone could be worse. However, any replacement has now been left in an impossible position by her incompetence, so has essentially been set up to fail. It's a lose lose situation for Starmer.

Much the same position she was faced with inheriting the tories mess then?

I wonder where we would be at if Sunak and Hunt were in power still. Despite the electorate’s frustrations at the time, I reckon we would all be better off had the vote gone the other way.

Well, the major difference is that Reeves was confident she had all the answers when she was in the shadow cabinet. In fact, she soon revealed herself to be economically illiterate and woefully incompetent. The person who replaces her will hopefully have none of her arrogance (or is that delusion?).

Almost certainly better off.

I'd like to actually know what people think she's done that's incompetentt? (I'm not interested in the VAT on school fees issue). The U turns on winter fuel payments and disability benefits weren't her - they were Starmer. Liz Kendall is widely criticised for her performance this week. But what has Rachel Reeves herself done?

And yes, I'm finding the lack of empathy for her incredible - no matter what your personal views on her or her party's politics are, the poor woman was visibly really distressed and I really can't see that the u turn this week was her fault. (And I'm saying this as someone who campaigns on benefits for my living).

Sorry but the markets like her attitude and determination and don’t want her to go. That’s a vote of confidence!

Well for a start we’d be wasting £4billion sending a hundred or so migrants to Rwanda

@HelenHywater makes a good point about who is the culprit? But that does not excuse RR.
Because she is the Chancellor it must be her responsibility. If she is being overruled by Starmer. She should not continue. No senior manager in any industry or profession would sign off on a multi million pound alteration to the present circumstances.
These are her policies, she spoke about them publically and argued for them in HoC.
If pressure is being exerted she should give in and resign.

Well as we don’t know who would replace her we have no clue what they’d think, but you’d assume anyone wanting to take on the role is unlikely to sell themselves with the statement “I haven’t got a clue what I’m doing”. Either they’re going to support Reece’s fiscal rules and so all the same people will hate them or they want to change them and so they’ll also “arrogantly think they have all the answers”.

Got that bang on … not!

https://www.taxation.co.uk/articles/more-staff-cuts-likely-due-to-national-insurance-hike

"More than a third of business owners are planning to make further cuts to staff numbers in response to increased employer NICs"

I'm in this boat. I've not directly reduced staff numbers, but two employees have moved on to other jobs and I'm not replacing them. Two other staff members are being asked to reduce their hours.

Those 2 members of staff represent 11% of our workforce.

Increase in employer's NIC has cost our business around £15,000. Increase in corporation tax (a Tory policy) has cost our business £25,000. Those two alone are the wages for one person, before all the other cost increases come into play.

As I said in my previous post - I don't agree with the changes she's made, but I never want to see anyone upset like that in such a public forum. I think it's very distasteful to revel in someone else's misery/upset.

I believe the saying is ‘kick a man when he’s down’, would that have been more acceptable to you?
It’s merely that seeing another human being broken (bad enough to look and act like her yesterday) should elicit a more intelligent response.
But I don’t think there is enough bandwidth for that on this thread or in your post.

It could be a personal matter.

It could be a roomful of braying donkeys laughing at her and calling her miserable.

It’s a horrible environment, she won’t be the first person to have felt like that in there.

whatever it was, some compassion wouldn’t go amiss.

Horrible people in the world and on this thread

Yes some truly unpleasant people. Fancy taking pensioners heating money away.........

She may need some time off and then she can return to her job. I wish her all the best.

She probably thinks she's in line to be the first Labour woman to be PM after Starmer.

The Deputy PM isn't a succession plan position, it's a union agreement position so Reeves would see herself as the natural successor along the lines of Blair and Brown.

Reeves every speech has majored on how she was going to solve all the problems. And now she's crying in the HoP.

She's the architect of her own demise.

Fascinating reading how unacceptable it is to criticise her here. Everyone else but not her.

Weird. I suppose Labour voters actually believed her speeches in the beginning.

Remind me of your economic qualifications for assessing the ‘Tories mess’? Or is your opinion also valueless?