1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

My child is disabled they can not attend school. This means I can not work. The DLA we get means we can afford for child to have life experiences and equipment to enable them to have some of the experiences their able bodies peers get to have.

We would be far better off if I was able to work. We would much prefer not having benefits if it meant child wasn't disabled and able to attend school.
Even without me working (having a wage) and without benefits we would be far more financially well off if we didn't have the costs from the disability.

If DLA was stopped we would not manage to provide the care child needs. Child didn't choose to be disabled, I didn't choose to give up a career I loved. Anyone can become disabled or have a disabled child.

My son works and he has autism. He is 19. He gets PIP. He has to work within walking distance from our house because he can't drive and can't cope with public transport. He is very good at his job because they give him a list and he just works through it without stopping to chat. But he finds the social side completely exhausting because it's like the people he works with are speaking a language that he studied for gcse and got a d in.

I am really proud of ds for working and i think he is doing very well. But he still needs his PIP because he needs a lot of support from a parent/carer. Which means either me not working or him using his PIP to pay someone to provide the support i give him.

From the BBC - The disability minister last night defended the government's plans in an appearance on BBC Newsnight, where he told Victoria Derbyshire that government support will help people who lose their benefits to find employment.
"Over time we will get more and more people into work," he suggested, as he listed plans to target employment support for the "200,000 people" currently out of work on health and disability grounds.

So there are only 200,000 currently out of work on health and disability grounds. He must know what he is talking about since his figures come directly from the DWP.

200,000.

1,640,000 million not disabled people of working age were unemployed (i.e. claiming unemployment benefits) at April 2025.

That means that 1,440,000 able-bodied people are claiming benefits when they caqn work and have no barriers to work.

And you able-bodied people think we are the problem????

I think that figure comes from this survey:

DWP survey says 200,000 disabled claimants are work ready

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There’s a difference between sites telling people how to milk the system and informing someone how to go about filling in a long, complicated form in order to get what they’re entitled to. Filling in a form correctly, giving a picture of how an illness or disability affects their lives is not easy and appropriate help can make the difference between approval or failure.

You seem bent on anger, so obviously the subject is very much in your mind, but I cannot make up mine as to what you are on about, because you seem on the against benefits on the one hand, and resentful on the other.

It shows the rest of us how you roll.

If you know better, why not tell us rather than insult one poster? Why not insult us all? Perhaps you have? I haven't read all your posts. Why would I? There is no useful information in them as you seem only to insult. Speech is free, so you are able to do that. Waste of time with me though. I am too thick skinned to allow you to affect me.

Do you think you insult my intelligence by your capital letters and make me too ashamed to post? I can tell you that I am not at all cowed by insults. With all the talk about benefits these past two weeks or so, and being disabled myself, I know full well that PIP is not unemployment benefit, yet there are thousands of people that claim PIP and are unable to work, which can put them on UC.

There is a lot of discussing done by the government on the subject, especially today. They are so sure they can get people off benefit and back to work, without saying how they intend to do that.

Perhaps they intend to take PIP away from some people they consider able to work, and give them unemployment benefit while they look for work.

Since Starmer refuses to discuss the matter with his MPs and disabled people, no one really know what his intentions are, just that the benefit bill must be cut.

Thinking about it, is it treason for Starmer to take benefits away from disabled British citizens to pay for the benefits and accommodation for illegal immigrants who come by boat?

There are still treason laws in this country. For a British Prime Minister to deny benefits to disabled people because he has taken on himself the responsibility to house, and feed, and give pocket money, phones and more to people from other countries who are here illegally is tantamount to going against the British Constitution.

If he doesn't do something about the number of immigrants who come to Britain illegally - 40% up on this time last year - it can be argued that he is committing treason against the British people.

I would like comments on that.

I would like comments on that.

Maybe start a thread on that rather than wanting to completely change the subject of this one?

I agree with you.

They also ask what medication applicants are on, which gives a pretty good idea of the severity of their disability.

It is the proposal to take away PIP and DLA from disabled British citizens because the government cannot afford to give it to the disabled AND illegal immigrants, that sticks in my craw.

It seems to me that the bad reputation building up against the disabled is disproportional to the attitude towards the illegal immigrants who are accommodated at the expense of the British taxpayer and genuinely disabled people, many of which are NHS failures, for which the benefit is compensatory more than anything else.

No it isn't treason. Hope that helps.

Also no one is giving benefits to illegal immigrants. But then you know that really don't you.

It probably isnt , there are loads of posters who claim to know some one getting PIP who shouldn't be in their opnion.

Nope.. this is a real person. He doesn't have much of a life.. starts at home mostly .. sometimes comes to the pub with me and our mutual friend

Well they would, wouldn't they?

They are bringing the anti benefit debate to the front of everyone's mind because they don't want to admit how much money is being spent on illegal immigrants.

If we knew the truth about that, it would be far worse than the benefit budget.

All these people who know someone that claims but definitely isn't entitled should volunteer as PIP assessors, could cut the waiting time significantly as they seem to be able to conduct full assessment with a cursory glance at a neighbours life.

It might be best to go and bash immigrants on another thread.🙄

Yes. OK. You name changed just to post this fairy tale?

So many children are damaged at birth because of the treatment mothers get in hospitals. They should have the benefits. They would be compensated for RTA.

There are so many children being labelled ADHD for the rest of their lives, never being able to earn a living, save for holidays and Christmas.

I think it is time that pregnant women kept a daily record of their pregnancy and the treatment they receive throughout it, and most certainly keep records of the labour and birth.

This is because many NHS Trusts have been accused of failing patients.

Many of us have pretty severe disabilities and there's no medication for it. I'm only under a consultant because no one can decide what my diagnosis is

1,640,000 million not disabled people of working age were unemployed (i.e. claiming unemployment benefits) at April 2025.
That means that 1,440,000 able-bodied people are claiming benefits when they caqn work and have no barriers to work.
And you able-bodied people think we are the problem????

There are barriers. For starters, there are 2 jobseekers for every vacancy. Some areas just don't have a lot of opportunities, some people don't the skills, or have skills that are not in demand. Being over a certain age is a huge barrier to employment too.

There are numerous thread on here about how grim the job market is for people who are really wanting to work. Also threads on how newly qualified nurses can't get jobs.

I think some PIP claimants not in work ARE work ready. I include my son in this. He is autistic and at 18/19 definitely not work ready.

At 22 he’s on the cusp even if it’s a 10hr a week job,

There are organisations out there who work entirely with neurodiverse people like my son and support them to find work. It might not be this year but it’s coming.

The organisation supporting him is Get Set UK, he has a lovely work coach and she’s slowly building up a profile of him which will enable her to find the right kind of work.

I also know from my job that other organisations focus primarily on those with physical or MH issues.

The key is they have to be at the point of being able to cope. Many are not.

While not condoning them getting PIP, there are some who have to pay for help to get to work, which adds extra costs which many workers do not have.

Not all blind people have guide dogs. Not all wheelchair users can rely on the employees of trains, busses etc. to help them. They very often have to pay someone to help them get to work. Currently, that works out as a minimum of £25 an hour. Worth it though, if you are not stuck in four walls all your life because you cannot afford to pay for help to get you to work.

Hopefully other posters will have the good sense to see your preposterous post, for what it is. There is so much untruth being spouted, it is poisonous.

It shows the rest of us how you roll.

If you had read ANY of my posts, never mind all of them, you would know that I am not against benefits. I was not the one claiming that cancer patients are automatically fast tracked on to benefits (they are not, but you said they were). You also said that cancer patients become unemployable - that is also not true, and many do work. And you said that their becoming unemployable is the reason they are fast tracked onto PIP, which is not an out of work benefit. All of those facts, which you have blatently ignored, have been repeatedly stated on this thread, never mind on the two dozen other threads on the subject.

And since you think it so very important, I am also disabled and you singled out my response from the at least dozen others also telling you that you are wrong.

I am also not the one posting about "illegal immigrants" and trying to turn this into a racist argument - disabled benefits or asylum seekers.

So back off, because I can see how you roll.

I don't think anyone disputes that. The point is why are disabled being targeted when even the able aren't in work

You don't know that until you know the hows, whys and wherefores of this daft shower.

How do you suggest they get people back to work? Starmer hasn't a clue. He has two big benefit headaches:

PIP and DLA

Accommodating illegal boat people, up 40% on this time last year. He maintains he cannot cut their accommodation, but something has to be done and he has cut the disability benefits. Now he might reasonably expect that some of those claimants could be in work, but he would have to placate employers in order for them to give jobs to the disabled to bring them off benefits, and I cannot see many employers doing that, can you?

The cost of that carrot could be higher than the mashed potato.