1,000 new PIP claims per day?

[flashbac]

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

How would you define a severely disabled person?

What is severe?

I claim pip. I work. I'd like to know where I fall in your thinking

This thread has a lot of posts that make me sad, I have AUHD but feel lucky that I don’t to need to claim PIP, I haven’t looked into whether or not I could qualify but I certainly don’t begrudge those who do, having autism fucking sucks sometimes and it can cause severe distress to people without the right job or the right tools to get to that job. I only got diagnosed recently and probably cost the NHS more needing crisis support etcetera. I tell you what, I’ll apply for PIP for one of the slatherers but they get to take my disability too 😄

Extreme learning disabilities or extreme mobility issues etc. Anything at the high end of the spectrum

And the rest of us with disabilities that require care and expensive equipment?

Indeed there are some people who need every penny. But it’s tiresome for some posters to claim on every thread that there is no fraud. Of course there is! Or “what about tax dodgers?” -yes, that’s wrong too but two wrongs don’t make a right.

I’m not sure that people’s mental health is generally worse - it’s that it is the latest illness. Before it was bad back, ME and fibromyalgia. I bet claims for these have fallen! Disclaimer: I know mentally unwell people and their condition and struggles are not “life’s events” which seem to be many people’s ailment.

I understand what you're saying. What if those in-between need some extra help to deal with the additional costs of their disability and to get to work?

Some of the increase in PIP claims is down to Long Covid. Some previously healthy people have become disabled from the virus and others who had underlying health issues, became more unwell after having Covid. Long Covid clinics have been closed down which doesn’t help.

Wtaf 😱

Extreme? You talking about your views here?

You need banning

Yes it’s based on self-reporting how your condition affects you. Lots of the online advice is to fill it in “based on your worst day” (even though that’s not what the form says). There was a case reported recently where a woman said she followed this type of advice and was then prosecuted for fraud. She did actually have MS but her social media feed was full of her doing long runs including I think a marathon.

So out of interest what would you do with an autistic child traumatised by school to the point they couldn’t go in, couldn’t be left at home on his own even as a teenager, needed supervision through night and day to ensure his safety.

Said child was highly academically able, was on high rate DLA due to the care and supervision he needed, then high rate pip for a couple of years. Both fairly straightforward to get because of the evidence we had.

No learning disability, no mobility issues (but scored highly in the getting around section due to needing high levels of supervision).

The world isn’t black and white like that. We’ve long moved past a time when disability is so narrowly defined, keep up!

How will they overcome it if they can't work because they can't afford to due to their disability?

Fucking hell

What exactly do I take responsibility for? It's not my fault that my eye muscles are underdeveloped or that I had an accident at 11 which caused a head injury which wouldn't have happened if I'd been diagnosed and treated appropriately

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/minister-finally-admits-that-working-age-benefits-spending-is-stable-despite-months-of-spiralling-claims/

How many people die each day or age out into pensions...these figures are meant to scandalised and divide us. What did governments think raising the pension age would do to these figures? A civilised society protects the vulnerable

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I wouldn't really be using any numbers from this source if I had to bet my life on it. They seem rather confused about what they are reporting.

Obviously the missing link is the proportion of awards to claims.

One of several things I used to help me with DLA forms was a Facebook group and they specifically said that ''based on your child's worst day'' is bad advice and classed as fraud. Seems like PIP online advice needs to catch up.

I would assume they would get UC like others who are not working,

I am saying the most deserving should be looked after.

Yeah, I bet a lot of these twits posting shit about disabled people are the "does s/he take sugar" type. Happens to my DH even now.

I bet one of us gets deleted, yet MNHQ are happy to allow smearing of disabled people to stand, even suggestions that their cars should be marked out are OK for MNHQ.

They can say they are unable to access every day aspects of life due to their diagnosis and that they have “care needs” and “mobility needs”. The diagnosis is the “evidence” and they fill the form in describing the daily need.

Do you mean the severely disabled should be ripped from their loving families ti ve placed in some kind of institution?

Ah. The deserving disabled and the undeserving disabled.

How very Victorian.

Are you a friend of Nigel by any chance?

So they would receive benefits anyway? What's the point?

My son isn't more deserving simply because he's physically disabled and so his disability is more obvious.

All disabled people who need financial support should get it.