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Thread 26 Starmer: Cats, Rebels and Orange Chaos

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DuncinToffee · 24/06/2025 17:06

Previous thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5349605-thread-25-starmer-cheers-for-a-falling-out-among-thieves?page=40&reply=145224605

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DuncinToffee · 26/06/2025 09:55

He stays on as councillor, job as leader too much work? The 18 year old is said to start Uni in September.

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Evenstar · 26/06/2025 10:01

The only positive is that unfortunately for the residents of Warwickshire it will show everyone that they are totally unfit for public office long before another General Election. At least 4 other Reform run councils are in utter chaos apparently.

bombastix · 26/06/2025 11:27

What alarms me is that people are prepared to back them in large numbers. Without really any evidence they’d be better. And these are mostly older people who you would assume had some decent life experience and aren’t idiots, but they are voting for these nobodies who can’t show decent achievements or skills or even any policies.

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 11:40

bombastix · 26/06/2025 11:27

What alarms me is that people are prepared to back them in large numbers. Without really any evidence they’d be better. And these are mostly older people who you would assume had some decent life experience and aren’t idiots, but they are voting for these nobodies who can’t show decent achievements or skills or even any policies.

Alarming it may be. Mysterious it ain't.

If you have been failed by successive governments of all stripes over the years, all of whom got there by making ludicrous promises with no possibility of delivering, then why would Reform be any worse ?

Remember if you remove the people that voted to give Cameron a "bloody nose" from the Brexit referendum then we'd still be in the EU. With 4% greater GDP.

And really, if you want to avoid the push to Reform, you need to tackle it from the top and rein in the millionaires and their poodle media that allow them to peddle lies as if they were holy writ.

DuncinToffee · 26/06/2025 13:02

Keir Starmer's spokesman repeatedly refuses to say whether the Prime Minister still has full confidence in Morgan McSweeney

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DuncinToffee · 26/06/2025 13:07

Well said

https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3lsj3i2abhs2e

After Kemi Badenoch mocks Keir Starmer for skipping PMQs in order to attend the G7 and NATO summits, Conservative MP Mark Pritchard condemns her "partisan" jibes, adding that "I may get the whip withdrawn for saying that, but so be it. There are some things that go beyond party politics."

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placemats · 26/06/2025 13:07

Starmer calls Badenoch unserious and irrelevant after her comment about him evading PMQs for the last two weeks.

Mark Pritchard (Conservative MP) highly critical of Badenoch's above remark, says he may get the whip withdrawn - but so be it.

placemats · 26/06/2025 13:08

Snap @DuncinToffee

bombastix · 26/06/2025 13:11

Foot back in her mouth. What a fool she is and so self absorbed

Notonthestairs · 26/06/2025 13:21

Fucks sakes. There are a multitude of criticisms that could be levelled but she chooses to make an absolute berk of herself instead.
They’d be better off with almost anyone else.

PickAChew · 26/06/2025 13:25

So he was supposedly in the wrong for missing the weekly pissing contest to, er, do his job?

There's no wonder the man looks knackered.

bombastix · 26/06/2025 13:35

Actually her full comments are absolutely awful. What is the matter with her. All she had to do was to refer to the PMs overseas engagement, and then have a go at him over welfare policy.

Piggywaspushed · 26/06/2025 14:03

I don't think it is even about being failed by governments (because on the whole the older demographic have been most cushioned), I think it's more a perception that the country is changing around them, demographically mainly, in an irretrievable and negative fashion - and that it is only Reform who represent those views with dogwhistles clarity. And only Reform validate and don't sneer at thos views. I've left the Tories out of that for the meantime.

Don't forget where the DM gets the lion's share of its readership from.

Piggywaspushed · 26/06/2025 14:04

Has anyone else been watching 'Shifty' btw? Great clips of Thatcher and her tribe.

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 14:05

The immediate retort is that Keir Starmer was away from the house as he was searching for records of Boris Johnsons COBRA meetings. With the added sting that "They are so small I may be gone a while", echoing captain Yates who went on a similarly fruitless excursion.

The thought that Starmers advisors earn more in a year than I have in a lifetime doesn't make me bitter though.

fixingmylife · 26/06/2025 14:07

Piggywaspushed · 26/06/2025 14:04

Has anyone else been watching 'Shifty' btw? Great clips of Thatcher and her tribe.

Yes, I'm loving Shifty.

bombastix · 26/06/2025 14:07

It is on my list to watch! Thanks for reminder

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 14:09

I think it's more a perception that the country is changing around them, d

Hence my comments on the media

placemats · 26/06/2025 15:05

bombastix · 26/06/2025 13:35

Actually her full comments are absolutely awful. What is the matter with her. All she had to do was to refer to the PMs overseas engagement, and then have a go at him over welfare policy.

She probably thinks the cuts don't go far enough.

placemats · 26/06/2025 15:08

Shifty by Adam Curtis (BBC iPlayer) is very good. I may re watch it.

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 15:20

I notice the BBC is acting as the propaganda wing of Reform again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9mm333p2o

(And I bet MN shows this link picture)

I wonder how many claimants they had to find that weren't struggling, health shot, in debt, and on the verge of homelessness before they found this story.

Silly me - that suggests they actually looked.

Watch out for the next tactic, which will be an inspirational "Ouch!" piece about someone with no body who has overcome all the hurdles with unspecified help and a strong undertone that "this is what disabled looks like" just to keep the trolls happy.

A close-up photo of Kailee who looks into the camera with a smile, she is sat on her sofa at home. She has dark hair down over her shoulders, apart from the front which is dyed blonde.

'I don't want to live on benefits, I want to work'

Young disabled people may soon see their Universal Credit top-up cut as part of wider welfare reforms.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9mm333p2o

PandoraSocks · 26/06/2025 15:30

placemats · 26/06/2025 15:05

She probably thinks the cuts don't go far enough.

She has said that!

What exactly did she say about Starmer?

itsgettingweird · 26/06/2025 15:58

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2025 15:20

I notice the BBC is acting as the propaganda wing of Reform again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9mm333p2o

(And I bet MN shows this link picture)

I wonder how many claimants they had to find that weren't struggling, health shot, in debt, and on the verge of homelessness before they found this story.

Silly me - that suggests they actually looked.

Watch out for the next tactic, which will be an inspirational "Ouch!" piece about someone with no body who has overcome all the hurdles with unspecified help and a strong undertone that "this is what disabled looks like" just to keep the trolls happy.

I actually know of 2 young people who have no legs below the thigh and one has 2 amputated arms and one has an amputated arm and the hand on the other arm. They are para swimmers.

You can overcome adversity to do all sorts of- doesn’t mean you don’t need PiP to support those extra costs that disability brings.

That’s where Labour are falling short with their propaganda on this. PIP isn’t and has never been an out of work benefit.

I actually do think looking to reform things is a good idea. Bit looking at reform should be looking to improve - not looking to make cut backs and leaving people worse off in an already struggling economy.

Their comms is dire.

placemats · 26/06/2025 16:00

@PandoraSocks she accused him of skipping PMQs over the last two weeks when PM Starmer was at the G7 and NATO meetings. See earlier posts by myself and OP at 13.07 on this thread.