Thread 26 Starmer: Cats, Rebels and Orange Chaos

[DuncinToffee]

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Don't forget that any expense on comms at the moment is a little bit of a gamble.

Imagine splurging £1 million on campaign that gets torpedoed by Trump doing something bonkers. Again. ?

Social media does and they did a cracking job in the run up to the election.

ETA I love your suggestions @Notonthestairs, wouldn’t that be interesting?

You mean "do a Trump" and flood the news cycle ?

Social media only tends to go to the already interested.

I don’t think that’s true. If that were the case Reform wouldn’t be using it so effectively.

"You mean "do a Trump" and flood the news cycle ?"
Yes. They havent gained anything from trying to work around right wing voters. May as well enjoy themselves. Farage is busily suggesting Cabinet members dont need to be a member of Parliament (and therefore accountable to Parliament - wonder why he'd suggest that eh?) so there will be plenty of support for bringing in Blair. Dont need to stop there. Get John Major on the payroll, he can begin conversations to rejoin! Get the Brexit bus out and set fire to it.

Sunak set a precedent by appointing Cameron as foreign secretary. If it was good enough for the Tories …

Exactly - Sunak was drawing on 'a wealth of experience' and getting Dave out of his shed.

Blair is hardly popular, eg Iraq... Brown could work though but as with Cameron, it will bring on cries of "Haven't you got your own pool of talent?"

Surely Labour have skilled people already in the 'commons ?

Was it a "precedent" ?

Lords have been ministers before (and it wasn't popular then).

I wasn't being entirely serious (apart from maybe the bus and the cheese and wine). I think there has been tiptoeing around and there needs to be much less of that.

Labour tried with 'freebie gate' I think Chris Mason will be up for reviving that one.

It’s heavily reliant on what you’ve already looked at. Sadly lots of people have looked at stuff that means they are ripe for Reform bollocks.

Well the Conservatives invested by putting their mates in the BBC and made shure they threatened the charter once a week.

I'm not suggesting that Labour should do the latter.

LBC reporting 3 out of 10 people who voted Labour regret it.

Why not say 7 in 10 voters don't regret it?🤔

Agree it's wantonly negative 'spin'

Zarah Sultana has resigned from the Labour Party to start a new party with Corbyn

Ffs. Splitting the left vote further is nonsense. And I get that just 2 (realistic) parties like the US also has issues.

Agree it will fracture the left wing vote. Might simply knock out both Greens and the new party.

She was in a furious rage earlier about Palestine Action and is so far left of the main bunch it's not a surprise. I actually like her, but I would, I guess.

I think the government's reaction to Palestine Action is ridiculous. Spray painting fighter jets isn't terrorism.

I like her too, but this decision is bonkers.

Agreed. I don’t get it at all.

Totally bonkers. I give their new party six months.

We seem to be back in People's Front of Judea territory...