Thread 26 Starmer: Cats, Rebels and Orange Chaos

[DuncinToffee]

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It is tiresome.

And not even confined to AIBU.

You dont have to actually post outrageous claims - you just quote the most outrageous claims with a mild "Really? What makes you think that?" and keep those claims popping up on threads. You could spot that sort of behaviour a mile off, it was all over the threads concerning the riots last summer.

But agreed the Tories I know well (family) have a much milder outlook.

well it’s not exactly a winning shot is it?

There was a long standing poster who did start saying this stuff. I was surprised and said what a homophobe they appeared to be. They shut up instantly. Revealing. I would not have had them as such - but if they had a political point to make, that was fair to decide homosexuality is shameful.

I think we are importing a kind of US culture of attack on line where moralising about sex is part of it; very foolish and depressing

I just report and let MNHQ take care of it.

I think we are importing a kind of US culture of attack on line where moralising about sex is part of it; very foolish and depressing

Where do you think they got it from ?

Remember a lot of "American" words (and spellings) aren't. They are actually fossilized remains of discarded English. The same with their society.

You known how they say when you look out into space, you are looking back in time ? Well, it is exactly the same when you look to the west. (Or east. Or north. Or South 😀)

Well, the markets seem to want Reeves in place.
But I'm sure the current feeding frenzy will rattle on regardless.

The NHS 10 year plan is being announced today.

The media is on RR watch by the sounds of it

Maybe hold onto nurse, for fear of finding something worse ?

Well I thought the system where the morality police got on a boat and crossed the Atlantic was a good one! Let them point fingers at each other don’t bring it back

I don't think the witch finders ever disappeared.

The Telegraph has a little thing that you can play with today where you can check the division of public spending by year since 1955 by allocation. Based on IFS data.

Newsflash - Reeves is pretty much dividing budgets like all her predecessors, Labour and Conservative did. Very little difference except New Labour put more into education and policing than other governments.

Reeves’s problem is that her party cannot accept the case for any cuts. None. So she has very little headroom to spend anything more on areas where needs are increasing. Those areas are health and welfare and directly about productivity. So her attitude is probably approved by the City, but my criticism of her is lack of political nous. She is right on the economics, but she is totally wrong in terms of bringing her colleagues along with her. Good economic choices are not necessarily political ones

Speaking of the Telegraph, it’s absolutely gutted that yesterday was a blip in the markets and they’ve recovered since Starmer reiterated his support for Reeves.

RR is out and about with KS today

I'm in shock about Diogo Jota. I'm mentioning here because not seen it mentioned anywhere else yet.

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I was in doubt doubt whatsoever that Sir Keir would support Rachel Reeves.

Me too just heard it on the news so sad.

The trouble is that some of the most unpleasant and obsessed posters are those who are clever about not actually breaching the guidelines.

I heard it on the radio when I was taking the cats to the vet. It's tragic news.

It's mentioned on the rolling football thread, RIP

She just gave a short speech and got a hug from Starmer

I was very impressed with Reeves today, it must have taken huge bravery to come out and give her speech after yesterday and the headlines today.

Markets back to normal.

Thank you for pointing out about it on the rolling football thread @DuncinToffee . I'd lost track of that thread

I often think the comments sections of newspapers/ facebook are todays equivalent of going to to watch public floggings / executions.

That is interesting- one of the reasons that we stopped doing in these things in public in the UK is that actually, showing authority engaged in licensed violence against people seemed to contribute to a lack of order or incitement of violence.

Lucy Connolly a good of extreme example. The UK has largely understood that the kind of manners culture towards others means a calmer, respectful society even if you disagree. There are a lot of implicit social rules that have built up to overcome our history of violent disagreement and dispute resolution by fire.