Thread 26 Starmer: Cats, Rebels and Orange Chaos

[DuncinToffee]

Previous thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5349605-thread-25-starmer-cheers-for-a-falling-out-among-thieves?page=40&reply=145224605

@placemats "There's certainly a lot of millionaires happy to pay more taxes" - have you heard of the Patriotic millionaires organisation?
Very keen to pay more apparently.
So what is stopping them?
As far as I can see, they are able to make voluntary extra contributions whenever they want.
Any takers yet?

I fear MN will be unbearable on Friday, with all the prophets of doom declaring that a year of Labour has collapsed the entire UK.

I remember hearing one of those long form group interview type programmes years ago. The group was former whips from all the main parties and form different governing periods.

A lot of the discussion was about the scurrilous tricks whips might use but the one point all of them agreed on was that it was easier to whip a small majority than a large majority. Not just due to the numbers to whip but due to the lack of fear in large majorities. The view was that MPs in a small majority are in constant fear of an early election which could cost them seats or their government posts (with benefits) whilst MPs in a large majority simply don’t believe they are at risk for several years.

Since then I’ve heard echoes of the same sentiment from other whips over the years so I imagine this is the problem the current Labour whips are experiencing.

They have been declaring doom since 5 July 2024

Yeah, the grapes are still sour even a year later. Labour has got a lot wrong, but they have also made some good changes. Meanwhile the Tories have made themselves even more irrelevant and unelectable, and Reform have given themselves 4 years to prove how useless they are. I think that's enough rope. nothing is decided yet, 4 years is a geological era in politics.

I don't think I've ever seen more foul stuff on Mumsnet than I've seen on that thread. Now there's a second one.

Indeed 😊

Let's dance x

Ffs.

And when I said what I thought, I was predictably told I could hide the thread.

Perhaps they're all sitting on their yachts offshore and constantly checking the messages?

Freedom from having too much money is liberation, socialism or France, Germany, Norway...Europe

FFS. There's a third thread now.

A quick look tells me the usual suspects, not content with one thread, are busy filling up the second one.

Not going back. Leave them to drip their poison. 👋 to the lurkers!

Really? God help us.

Fraid so. Nasty, nasty people.

Anyone longstanding? I find the majority of Conservatives don’t real do stuff like that, though there are a few deeply closeted fruit loops who like to go on about Starmer being gay

A few regulars have repeated guido fawkes 'rumours' on Starmer and his children on previous threads.

But let's not taat, we have 👀

edited to add, see Pandora's deleted post

Tried to avoid them, a site setup to support women has fallen a very very long way from that ideal.....

The women's Euroshave kicked off so I have something to distract me from the Reformites,

I would like to see one, but don't hold out any hope. Corporate manslaughter for the preventable deaths in the NHS, and Boris Johnson for the wider public sector deaths as the controlling mind.

In Boris Johnson's case treason charges for the unlawful suspension of Parliament.

I had a feeling that would happen to my post!

What did you say?! PM me if necessary

I can't seem to PM you!

I've been deleted while calling out the vitriol.

Same old, same old.

@PandoraSocks I’ve PM’d you - hopefully you can reply.