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Baby of brain dead woman finally delivered weighing less than 2 pounds

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Soubriquet · 18/06/2025 12:27

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It’s evil what was done to that poor woman. At one point she was literally rotting just so she could incubate the fetus that little bit longer. He’s finally been born, and he’s so small. They are confident he will make it, but I think they HAVE to say that to justify what they did.

Least she can rest in peace now

Baby of brain-dead woman on life support is born weighing less than 2lbs

The baby of a woman in Georgia who was declared brain dead and has been on life support since February was delivered early Friday morning, her mother said

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/georgia-newborn-delivered-brain-dead-1213815?fbclid=IwY2xjawK_gOZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHkHm22r72TRfRb1NoCkQxmQpV53f71BDzj3bjFOVi8koK9C7b6A0Z_gB08R2_aem_mHRg2EJ7nbZQy6xc3m1D4A

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BetterWithPockets · 18/06/2025 18:05

Soggybirthdaycamping · 18/06/2025 13:03

It's not an experiment. It's been done before. Just not quite this early. In the case of a woman kept alive for 14 weeks (the record - though does this beat it?), baby was fine. Follow up at a year showed baby was fine. Don't know about longer than that as they were discharged from further follow up.

Psychologically, who knows. But in that case the family were behind the decision, would read to 'bump' etc.

It feels ghoulishly like people don't want this baby to be ok, so it proves their point.

There are also some very provocative terms being used — talking about the baby being incubated in her corpse, for example, and a reference to her ‘rotting’ body. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what happened, that feels deliberately inflammatory to me.

whitewineandsun · 18/06/2025 18:06

Toastedpickle · 18/06/2025 13:07

No one is wishing the death of a child, that goes without saying. He may survive, but he almost certainly will not thrive. And let’s NOT put aside the ‘rights and wrongs’ of this case, because they have caused him, his mother and his wider family a lot of suffering and distress.

Absolutely this.

Justhere65 · 18/06/2025 18:09

It is a desperately sad situation of course but I found myself wondering what the baby’s mum would have wanted and I think she would have wanted him to have the chance of life. If this ever happened to me, I would want my baby to survive, but so very hard on everyone who loves her.

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 18:09

That poor foetus was used as a specimen to explore a theory.

What theory was being explored?

HardyHiker · 18/06/2025 18:10

Soggybirthdaycamping · 18/06/2025 12:34

Rights and wrongs aside, child seems to have a good chance of surviving, and is a perfectly normal weight for a baby of that gestation, which has usually about a 70 to 90% chance of survival.

Baby also has survived about 5 days so far, so their chances of survival are higher, as most who die will do so within the first few days.

This baby is likely to make it and I hope it does. It's death or survival shouldn't be used as points scoring either way. Ultimately it's a tiny baby fighting for its life, and on that basis, I wish it the best of luck

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Babies born at 24 weeks gestation have aroud 40%-60% survival not 70%-90%. Most have some degree of developmental delay, cerebral palsy and hearing and vision problems.

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 18:16

HardyHiker · 18/06/2025 18:10

Babies born at 24 weeks gestation have aroud 40%-60% survival not 70%-90%. Most have some degree of developmental delay, cerebral palsy and hearing and vision problems.

I think the gestation was closer to 28 weeks but I may be wrong.

MILLYmo0se · 18/06/2025 18:40

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 13:48

It looks like there is a GoFundMe, presumably for the medical bills. c$210k raised so far.

Yes but there's no guarantee of that happening or there being enough to clear the debt if you were say to be leaving some kind of a legal document saying you expect to be kept on life support until your child is born. It's a big thing to expect of family to have to go public looking for money too

SomethingFun · 18/06/2025 18:46

Deciding to let your dead body be artificially reanimated to enable a 9 week old foetus gestate to a point it can be removed and probably survive, but in what state who knows, is the worse possible start any mother could give to a human being. I can’t understand why people are romanticising it on this thread as like ‘the ultimate motherly sacrifice’ or something.

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 18:52

. I can’t understand why people are romanticising it on this thread as like ‘the ultimate motherly sacrifice’ or something.

Which people are “romanticising” it in this way?

A couple of posters have expressed the (very human) thought that they would want to do anything for their baby. But no one has used anything like the words that you have put in quotes.

filionj · 18/06/2025 18:53

Poor kid. What chance does he have of a normal development

myplace · 18/06/2025 18:55

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 12:46

There's no indication that it will reach the UK. We have and have always had quite a different stance on abortion.

I would have agreed with you until the police discussed using women’s period apps to investigate still births and miscarriages, and the number of prosecutions has soared in the last few years.

legoplaybook · 18/06/2025 18:57

Poor baby, poor woman. The whole situation is so grotesque.

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 19:01

myplace · 18/06/2025 18:55

I would have agreed with you until the police discussed using women’s period apps to investigate still births and miscarriages, and the number of prosecutions has soared in the last few years.

Blimey!

Hopefully the law change currently going through will put paid to that.

SP2024 · 18/06/2025 19:06

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 17:19

There are a number of ways that people are kept "artificially alive" - for example, someone on a ventilator cannot breathe by themselves, but they are not brain dead, so their brain continues to keep cellular processes going etc.

Yes I’m aware of bed sores, I know they can get bad but actually people can be put on vibrating mattresses and turned so they don’t get them. Otherwise every bed bound human would have them and they don’t. A bit much to call bed sores “rotting” would they use that term of their elderly but very much alive relative has one?

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 19:09

@SP2024 i don’t think you meant to quote me

CurlewKate · 18/06/2025 19:10

Apart from anything else, nobody. has any idea what the impact will be on the baby of spending all that time in a completely stimulus free environment. It’s heartbreakingly shocking.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 18/06/2025 19:13

Soggybirthdaycamping · 18/06/2025 12:34

Rights and wrongs aside, child seems to have a good chance of surviving, and is a perfectly normal weight for a baby of that gestation, which has usually about a 70 to 90% chance of survival.

Baby also has survived about 5 days so far, so their chances of survival are higher, as most who die will do so within the first few days.

This baby is likely to make it and I hope it does. It's death or survival shouldn't be used as points scoring either way. Ultimately it's a tiny baby fighting for its life, and on that basis, I wish it the best of luck

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Survival isn’t quality of life. The baby is very likely to have some serious problems. It’s bonkers.

Theunamedcat · 18/06/2025 19:15

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 18:09

That poor foetus was used as a specimen to explore a theory.

What theory was being explored?

If you could grow a baby in a dead body for a significant amount of time

LittlePurpleClouds · 18/06/2025 19:19

What worries me is how the headaches weren't picked up - surely they would have been horrific.

Soggybirthdaycamping · 18/06/2025 19:20

HardyHiker · 18/06/2025 18:10

Babies born at 24 weeks gestation have aroud 40%-60% survival not 70%-90%. Most have some degree of developmental delay, cerebral palsy and hearing and vision problems.

Baby wasn't born at 24 weeks.

NHSinterviewupcoming · 18/06/2025 19:21

Soggybirthdaycamping · 18/06/2025 19:20

Baby wasn't born at 24 weeks.

25 weeks. It’s hardly much better.

Soggybirthdaycamping · 18/06/2025 19:23

Theunamedcat · 18/06/2025 19:15

If you could grow a baby in a dead body for a significant amount of time

It's been done loads of times, and for longer. It's not some untested theory. The difference here is that it was started earlier, and was without the consent of the NOK.

The mum was beating dead, but her body was being kept alive. Baby was not growing inside a 'rotting corpse'.

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2025 19:25

Theunamedcat · 18/06/2025 19:15

If you could grow a baby in a dead body for a significant amount of time

No, this wasn’t a science experiment. No one was testing a theory, though the treatment regime may be written up in due course.

It came about because of fear of breaking Georgia’s restrictive abortion laws.

Icebreakhell · 18/06/2025 19:30

I think people, don’t seem to understand the implications of being brain dead.

Your brain regulates all your bodily functions. Without it you can be artificially ventilated for a time but this isn’t going to compensate for the lack of brain activity; Keeping an early gestation foetus alive in this way is an act of cruelty to the foetus and complete disregard of the mother’s dignity and wishes.

rowenwren · 18/06/2025 19:33

SP2024 · 18/06/2025 19:06

Yes I’m aware of bed sores, I know they can get bad but actually people can be put on vibrating mattresses and turned so they don’t get them. Otherwise every bed bound human would have them and they don’t. A bit much to call bed sores “rotting” would they use that term of their elderly but very much alive relative has one?

People don’t mean bedsores when they mention Adriana ‘rotting’. They mean decomposition. Internal organs failing and shutting down etc. She was completely brain dead, her brain wasn’t controlling any bodily function, it was decomposing.