Labour isn't working - Thread 4

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

Previous thread:
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I dont think Ive ever seen anything like it. The wheels have well and truly come off. Utter chaos and zero leadership from Starmer.

Right, they have three more weeks before summer recess. Let's see if they can make it without any more colossal acts of self sabotage.

I think this PIP one is due a third reading next week, more on this here

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/labour-still-planning-to-force-bill-through-with-minimum-scrutiny

Surely they'll have to delay it now, if only because there'll be fuck all to actually read?

Some unnamed MP has described the whole farce as a ...cluster fuck of Godzilla proportions. I think that about covers it.

That wording.. Pretty accurate

This is Starmer and Reeves. Before Kendall who is mostly the fall woman.

The two of them are wrecking the place.

The IFS are saying that rather than saving money, this bill that the government insisted on forcing through will now COST £100 million.
You couldn't make it up. Clusterfuck of Godzilla proportion is very accurate.

So, the status quo which was considered untenable was cheaper, and we'll all be paying for this incompetence in the autumn budget then? Great

Oh, and I see Diane Abbott is demonstrating that her two hours training on how not to be an anti-semite needs a refresh today.

The tax burden is onerous already. This is on Starmer and Reeves.

Ive just googled that 🤬
WTF is wrong with her.

I think you might need to start a new thread to cover that one.

Blimey at Diane Abbott. That’ll test Labour.

I know, sorry. It's best to keep that off this thread.

No, don't be sorry, I was just saying that you could fill a thread on that alone. Happy to open that can of worms if you like, I'm sick of all of it.

I can see Labour MPs getting bolshy now they’ve hit out. What a mess they are.

They’ll keep pushing economic nonsense. Perhaps there will be a crunch point for them.

Abbott is diabolical with the antisemitism.

It’s quite a trick that isn’t it, spending £100m instead of saving £5 bn…hmmm so much for the return to competence. It’s horrible though as we’re all getting that bill….

That’s what happens with these super majorities, you get people that were scantily vetted who may well be one note wonders trying to make their mark on social media for their next career.

Might as well have not bothered with any welfare reform, including the WFA cuts. A lesson in how to waste taxpayer money.

Seems to be a repeated theme for Labour. All their policies fit the bill.

Deutsche bank research on the UK economy shows the floor of needed tax rises is £10-15bn. The markets are watching.

They should have pulled the bill which would have given them the opportunity to re-think and come back with a better plan. They have scuppered their chances of reforming welfare through sheer pigheadedness.

I don't think Reeves can survive long after the next budget. If Starmer tries to cling on to her, I think it will cost him his position. He has lost all credibility and authority. Rayner is on manoeuvres and the left of labour are now emboldened.

PMQs should be interesting today.

Rayner will take us out completely if it happens. It amazes me that Labour still believe their own hype and will come up with some nonsense on how great this all is.

I cant imagine a Rayner government 🙈. The only good thing about Starmer is that he's not Rayner!

Exactly. I think they use her to scare people into accepting him 🫣

Deep misogyny runs through the Labour Party - they've never yet had a leader who wasn't white and male - and their world view is very much about 'keeping in your box' (and just takng a bigger share of the pie for your particular box). I don't think they'd accept her.

Mn is still very Labour isn’t it. I wonder how much damage they’ll cause before some more see it.

Really out of step generally with polling. Tg for this thread