Owner of Tattle Life named

[BeardofHagrid]

The owner of hate forum Tattle Life has today been legally named as Sebastian Bond. He also goes by the alias Bastian Durward. He has tried to flee to Asia to avoid paying his legal costs.

https://goss.ie/featured/everything-we-know-about-the-owner-of-tattle-life-as-he-is-finally-named-423238

Lots of things shouldn't exist but unfortunately they do. I mean Twitter & the Daily Mail are huge examples.

It shouldn't exist and I think this is where Tattle is going to get in trouble because it says that it has a 0 tolerance policy for hateful remarks etc. So if they aren't removing the content, they are going to get in trouble.

I don't know the Tattle policies but if they say they delete X then they have to comply with it.

I have definitely said offensive things about Trump and Boris on here, not sure if I have defamed them but I have said things that are rude.

The poster referred to horrible things being said about children on Tattle. Well lots of horrible things are said about children at the school gates (or even by kids in school) which are as mean and nasty as stuff said on Tattle or Mumsnet.

Society loves to pick on other people - rightly or wrongly. It deflects from their own issues

Society loves to pick on other people - rightly or wrongly. It deflects from their own issues

Human nature unfortunately

I get this!

There are some influencers I see who don't declare ADs its and it really grates on me as it makes ALL of us look bad?

Also I think if you put your life on the internet you have to be open for scrutiny, but not to the extent that some threads go on tattle.

I will say it annoys me when people say they don't like influencers as a whole, but has an inst/tiktok account where they actively follow influencers.

See I appreciate you feel bad about being on the site but if you were on there and didn't do what you mentioned I wouldn't feel too bad.

Gossip is a human nature, I'm just mentioning the posters who did take it way too far, and the fact that the site didn't delete the comments made.

Try not to be too hard on yourself.

I don't have tick tock and haven't used insta in years so don't follow any influencers. But I have dc and work with teens so have to be aware of SM.

People definitely go to far but that's true in real life to as we see on here all the time.

I think many people feel like they have a relationship with said influencer and if they have parted with money etc or feel lied too they start to then feel hurt & betrayed. It's the relationship that makes it complex. Thats why I make the Harry & Meghan analogy because I think a lot of the public felt they had a relationship with them, supported them etc and then felt betrayed. It's not rational to care so much about strangers, there needs to be some form of relationship. And of course most influencers need that relationship to sell & many exploit it eg selling dangerous stuff.

I think the psychology of it all is fascinating but complex. Essentially when you are selling yourself & selling things to others there is going to be friction. I'm not sure how you counter it tbh.

See this is exactly how I feel.
I stupidly got caught up in the gossip and joined in thinking it was fine cos they shouldn’t come on here anyways- the online equivalent of chatting behind someone’s back. I’m pretty sure I wasn’t defamatory, just judgemental on what they were posting- wrong of course. I never bitched about people’s kids- I always thought that was too far. I never shared floor plans or where people lived, that kinda stuff is a bit unhinged let’s be honest.
But I am someone who I think they’re trying to reach by saying get off it and delete it cos it’s toxic. They hope by making it too notorious it’ll shut down. Which now on reflection is what’s needed.
But like I said there has been far worse out there past and present and just cos it was a cesspit didn’t mean everyone got revealed just for being on it- we still have laws after all.
I can imagine they would want to know who the most crazed and defamatory trolls were- that’s deffo not me! I never started any threads on anyone! But not sure how they’d go about that.
I saw that Katie Boulter was saying she gets 100s of abusive messages to her personal accounts from people who lost bets. THAT is harassment ffs!
I do think yes the fault lies with the tattle owner and mods- they weren’t stringent enough.

So it’s ok to post it anonymously on tattle because the same is being done by kids at school?

Yes there’s some posters on there still being really defiant and cocky and I’m like…..erm….least I’ve seen the light!

Are you posting anonymously here?

and for the record, I never said it was OK. What I said is the poster is sheltered. Being nasty and bullying goes on everywhere not just on Tattle.

The internet (not just Tattle) however has become a safe space for keyboard warriors to spout all kinds of things and the worst culprits in my opinion is the #BeKind brigrade

Ive seen influencers set their loyal followers on people - not on Tattle but on IG (I unfollowed), Twitter now X has become a war zone (again my opinion and so I haven’t used it in years) - any online news (not just DM) is full of vile comments.

i can’t remember - are you the poster who had an influencer set their followers on you?? I’m sorry. That sounded horrific and it’s clearly caused you trauma.

I’m another one who has deleted my account.
I also engaged in some negative conversation about one health influencer as I previously mentioned on this thread. I would never have commented on her kids or given personal information and I don’t think I crossed any lines other than being a bit unkind which I do feel bad about. It’s a very negative headspace to be in to be gossiping like that about someone on the internet. If you were happy you probably wouldn’t be doing that!
However, I still feel it’s important that people calling influencers sometimes terrible behaviour out should be able to do it, some of the influencer behaviour I’ve seen revealed on Tattle has been pretty awful. There’s definitely a balance and the internet can’t get it right at the moment. Silencing the people who don’t have a platform is not the answer.

I think you make an excellent point! The village (neighbours gossiping over the hedge) and society has changed. The internet and SM allowed people we don’t know to come into our lives, treat us like friends or loved ones when infact they are strangers selling us a persona, brand or product.

I am not saying that some people don’t become genuine friends - it does happen - but it blurs the lines. People then feel betrayed and their hurt makes them want to hurt.

In years to come, I would love to read the psychological studies done on SM, Influencers et all

I think it's a very tricky space to navigate. I agree with what someone said about it being the equivalent of gossiping around the water cooler at work. You build up a relationship through a screen with these people and when something happens you don't like, you feel personally offended. Plus I do think a lot of influencers really sell their kids out and film every waking moment which is just really poor and needs regulating. People will have an opinion on that rightly or wrongly.

The site wasn't illegal but the moderation should have been better. People should have been warned if they went too far and they haven't been. The site is responsible for that as they have it in their ts and cs that they moderate 24/7. They clearly do not.

I know of people who have requested posts be deleted that they now don't agree with in an attempt to remove the footprint there as well. Also anything that could be self identifying in a breach which makes sense.

Honestly if it's caused a lot of tattlers to self reflect and delete their account that is a huge win for the influencers. If you've not crossed a line by sharing floor plans, calling social services, genuinely being a bit of a stalker, I'd say you were ok!

Don't forget, originally this couple contacted Tattle to ask them to take down the defamatory posts. If he'd just done that then he wouldn't be in this mess.

They can't share everyone's information, especially as I guarantee there are some influencers on there 😅

I do think the tattlers make some valid points about influencers pimping out their young children for money for example. Also some appear to leave out crucial information about their weight loss such as using the injections.

Perhaps tattlers should use that energy to campaign for better regulation of social media and advertising but whilst they are often vitriolic and unpleasant, mainly to other women, they do have some valid arguments.

I am posting anonymously which is how I navigate the internet these days, I wouldn’t stick my head above the parapet again having seen how easily people believe everything they read and can be so nasty with it.

It was traumatic until I realised none of it means anything. The people sat behind fake names would probably smile sweetly at you on the street. They have issues of their own, if they are fortunate enough to put their phones down and heal they'll see it for themselves. As you’re trying to justify bullying by more bullying, I accept you’re not there yet. I wish you the best.

Omg I am truly sorry of you feel I am bullying you. What did I say that is bullying?

I thought I was rationally answering you. You stated things and I’ve countered with my thoughts. I’m really confused and sorry.

I think the frustration is it gets lost in the noise of people getting too invested in their daily lives. And calling social services or whatever. Which, do we know if that actually happens? If this is claimed, would the influencer have to prove it and prove that it was the anonymous poster?

It's very complicated. I think if it's helped a few people reflect and move away from social media though, that's not a bad thing.

That’s why I still genuinely think they’re putting th pressure on with the scares that they’re coming for us (how?!) so that loads leave and delete their accounts, people lose interest and he loses money and then shuts it down.
No embarrassing court cases and exposés for them all, no money spent.