Owner of Tattle Life named

[BeardofHagrid]

The owner of hate forum Tattle Life has today been legally named as Sebastian Bond. He also goes by the alias Bastian Durward. He has tried to flee to Asia to avoid paying his legal costs.

https://goss.ie/featured/everything-we-know-about-the-owner-of-tattle-life-as-he-is-finally-named-423238

Some influencers are saying now they have written to the government to act and remove the site and prosecute members

The Dr Jessica government thing sounds to me like it means they’re wanting the gov to shut it down.

Some influencers often get everything they deserve on Tattle. It often does a good job of exposing the lies, lack of transparency and fakery.

I don’t like it when posters get too personal for no reason, but on the whole, I think it’s a good site.

The Government cannot take action against members. What they can do is bring in legislation that going forward there will be tighter regulations on such sites, which will take time to enact.

The majority of members on that site have not broken any laws. The couple that sued brought a civil action, it wasn’t a criminal case.

That’s what I thought- what would the PM do, take down X every time someone calls him a c*nt??

I think their aim is to bring so much heat that it forces a shut down and/or maybe the government could bring in a law requiring all forum users to verify their ID? Not sure how that would work but would be the change along the lines of what they’re wanting?
As I said, there are people who need the internet to allow anonymity for their personal safety, that couldn’t possibly be removed.

There’s health threads and mum and baby threads and people talking about eastenders n all it’s not all negative

Well then they’ll be exposing the influencers who use it also and their families.
Like we’ve said they’ll only get a list of email addresses. They already have the usernames.
Its scare tactics. To force users to stop and come off it, ad revenue plummets and he shuts it down.

also remember they went thru the court case TWO years ago! Nothing happened last week there was no court case it was just that reporting restrictions were lifted about him.

Where would they even publish the usernames and emails? Tattle cannot share this information unless it is a criminal matter (I believe)?

I think they're trying to scare people into coming off of it.

Plus let's be honest, Tattle say on their T&Cs that they don't allow hate. If they aren't deleting it, they're going against their own policies. I think that is where they're coming from and it'll be Tattle that get sued.

They can't bring a libel case to court after 1 year.

I feel like theyre just riding the wave and putting pressure on the site to get shut down. They'll go to the government and get new legislation in place.

No it's not but some threads are awful.

It’s exactly this. Get it shut down and gone before they’ve all had to spend a penny.

Also do a Google search on Ask.fm and how it was implicated in the actual bullying of kids online which led to suicides. Horrific.

Didnt get forced to publish a list of all its users.

I'm personally not sure it matters that much. The fault is with the owner and there are some threads on there that are absolutely awful. It's not just influencers that are called out. There are threads dedicated to fat shaming women - Brogan Tate springs to mind. There were horrible comments posted on the Cheryl Tweedy thread after Liam died. Some threads aren't defamatory but they are really poisonous and it's not just influencers that are called out - it's loads of people in the public eye.

Some of these people are completely awful. Brogan is. But she's fat shamed all over the place and there have been multiple comments about her husband's sexuality. This is the thing - it's all arms length until it affects you. Just words on a screen. I think it should surely be ok to call someone out as a grifter without comments about their weight or whether their partner is in the closet

There have been comments on the Cheryl thread that Bear isn't Liams and that was being posted two days after Liam died. There was also a pause on slagging Lauren Goodger off for a few days after her daughter died and then it all started again. I completely understand that some of these people need to be called out - I just think it gets too close to the bone sometimes

Absolutely. And I think that’s who they’re after- the posters who really do act like trolls with the constant constant comments about people and their vulnerabilities etc.

I know I never started a thread about anyone so I didn’t encourage anything. Just wish I’d never joined the pile on but I’ve seen the light now.

With Ask.fm the parents managed to get PM at the time David Cameron to urge people to boycott the site. Revenue plummeted and it was eventually sold. Some company actually bought it thinking it could be turned around as they liked its business model! They improved the mods etc but like I said no list of all the users- including ones who’d have bullied kids to death- was ever published. That was in 2013 before the Sands’ case therefore I’m sure would have been used as a precedent in Seb’s “defence”.
Tattle is hideous in places, for sure but thinking all forums in place at the moment cannot EVER have anonymous users is for the birds. We either have free speech or we don’t. Yes we can’t have hate speech or incitement or defamation- all totally different.
Also Dr Jess’s idea of malicious comms is interesting because unless tattlers TOOK these comments to instagrammers’ personal messaging services etc I don’t see how it is because they never HAD to look on Tattle.

I’ve never even heard of most of the people who are calling for everyone to be exposed.

I’m not a member but I have learnt a lot, especially the AD and PR/gift stuff. How the influencers never mark as AD etc or is tiny writing a shade darker or lighter than background.
So very easy to miss, I now never hardly click any links or if I do I clear my cookies first!

And in my case. I just happened to look on tattle very randomly and I was like - this person is talking about me. I had no idea who it was to start with. They slaughtered me all over that thread but failed to mention that they had sent me a twitter threat to maim me. And helped their pal get me arrested. Defamed me all over twitter too. A very selective version of events that I had no right of reply to. They harassed my mum when she was suffering from cancer. They doxxed my brother. All on twitter. But the folk on the Sarah thread laughed along at the stuff she posted about me on tattle

And much more. I had a uni essay due the next day. I was shaking. I tried to get the hate removed to no avail but the worst thing was people on that thread were clapping and laughing along and believing every word as if it were fact. They couldn't get enough of the gossip

And I had been through quite enough by that point
I saw a comment on tattle this morning saying that I accused this woman of ruining my life. As if That's completely not the truth. She tried to but she didn't - and this is my issue with some of the threads on there - people just fill in the blanks. They make it up as they go along

But - to the the folk on the Sarah Jane Goodwin thread who clapped along at a woman who threatened to put me in intensive care - I wouldn't wish the last 8 years of my life on anyone. I have ptsd. I'm on disability benefits because of the trauma I've been through - and folk on that thread took everything that was said about me at face value - that's on you. Not on me

Sometimes it's not just gossip. It's people's real lives that you are hurting

Id be happy to see tattle launched in the bin tomorrow - and that is entirely on Seb and his lack of moderation

It says your comments stay but they’re no longer linked to your username is that true when you’re deleted?
Also why does it take a bloody week ffs

You will be very lucky if it takes a week. I've never had a response from the site ever

No I mean it says the date my account will be deleted- I plan on trying to log in the day after and seeing if I can/can’t get in.

Maybe the government should spend their time making it illegal for “influencers” to post their children’s entire lives online without their consent, making them work constantly as unpaid actors for their “family vlogging” channels.