Owner of Tattle Life named

[BeardofHagrid]

The owner of hate forum Tattle Life has today been legally named as Sebastian Bond. He also goes by the alias Bastian Durward. He has tried to flee to Asia to avoid paying his legal costs.

https://goss.ie/featured/everything-we-know-about-the-owner-of-tattle-life-as-he-is-finally-named-423238

Tattle has opened my eyes to some of the carry on of so-called influencers and bloggers. The over sharing of their children and partners personal lives is awful. Then there is the selling of 'white label' Chinese goods. They order goods from China, put a bit of branding on it and sell it on at huge mark up. I read that tattle is Trust Pilot for influencers

If a court order is issued for the names of commentators to be handed over then the site will have to comply. MN had to provide the details of two users in a libel case brought by a plastic surgeon a few years ago.

I don’t understand people saying they’ve had threads started about them - can people start a thread about absolutely anyone? Why would the rest of the site care what Lisa at work is up to?

Yeah but that’s in the case of libel/ slander/ defamation I’d assume?
not if you were just being unkind and commenting you hated someone’s hair or said their account content was dumb etc.

I really liked the Sali Hughes threads on Tattle. I was only aware of her Guardian column, which basically degenerated into an advertorial. But I wasn't aware of her social media presence and general unpleasant behaviour until I read the Tattle threads. Obviously it's not exactly life or death stuff, but the posters there are pretty well-informed.

A few years ago she did a “top 5 concealers of the year” type article in the guardian. I was surprised that the sell out and incredibly well priced (£4.99) concealer had been left out. I politely commented that it might be nice for Sali to start to include cheaper priced alternatives (as in the best of the budget brands) because not everyone can afford £50 for a concealer.

Well, a “friend” of sali absolutely tore into me. It was absolutely bizarre. It made me laugh though.

Exactly. People are getting very confused here. Why would anyone think that a judge would order for names of posters on tattle to be made public because they said something “nasty”?! Aside from the actual legality of it, if that did happen the floodgates would open for every single comment on the internet- the Daily Mail comments section would be a goldmine 😅 It is absolutely never going to happen.
This specific case was due to things being said that hurt a business that could be proved to be untrue and was not taken down by the site. It also concluded in 2023 and yet Tattle is still going and no one, not even the posters from this case, have been “outed”. So everyone who is gleefully rubbing their hands about users of the “cesspit” being made public can calm down.

I must say, there are a lot of posters who claim to hate it but know A LOT about what’s posted there ! Clearly making it money and keeping it going by regularly reading.

And yep, I’m a member. I go on the Ingham threads because the dad is a dirty piece of work who tried to get young fans to sleep with him and yet YouTube continue to let him post there. He has taken all of his children out of school and is now dodging £100k taxes whilst boasting about shopping hauls and how he makes £thousands a day. Look up Ruby Franke and her story of being exposed by her family on social media. It’s these awful people ruining their children’s lives that people should focus their anger on, and I’m glad tattle keeps discussions about it open or most of this would be lost.

Yeah, several years ago I used to sometimes read and comment on her Guardian column. Occasionally I'd make a similar comment to yours and I'd get a sneery passive-aggressive response either from Sali herself, or one of her 'friends'. For the life of me I couldn't understand the loyalty some people had to someone who was basically an influencer plugging stuff nobody needs. I think her Guardian column was important as in her mind, it put her on a higher level to your average Instagram influencer. But really she's no better than them.

The sands family are worth over 150 million and there are so many things they've managed to massage over. I'm not going to say the judge is corrupt, but everyone around here smells a lot of fish with them lot. Will the full story with them ever come out? Maybe not as they've been so successful at silencing many. Or one day their whole house of cards could come falling down with everything and wow it'll be a ride.

Totally offtopic but wow how interesting that an upstanding legal professional from a good family that you'd never expect to date a gangland psycho killer
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/robbie-lawlor-had-tryst-with-legal-professional-whose-home-was-targeted-by-hitman/a1464218234.html

You need to be a public figure with at least 10,000 followers to have a thread started on you afaik. But that doesn’t stop them talking about an influencer’s family members and random people within other threads. For example on the Harry and Meghan threads they regularly tore the piss out of an artist who did paintings of the Queen with Paddington. It’s fine not to like someone’s work but they were posting her IG account and tearing it to pieces.

That’s what I thought- could you imagine the precedent it would set- look at all the teachers who get hate posts online, footballers who get abuse etc, celebs probably get slagged off in WhatsApp groups up and down the country, what do they think is reasonable to have controls of?
Courts haven’t ever ordered websites to give up anonymous details for people who are RACIST to footballers etc.
In the case of money, defamation, libel slander etc it’s totally different and yeah if posters on that thread posted falsehoods that adversely affected their income then I can see how they had a case. What they really wanted was him, to out the owner of Tattle so they can go after his revenue in adverts etc. Which ofc, there wouldn’t be any of people didn’t visit the site!
All I know is I’ve not defamed anyone I’ve joined in on commenting on their public content.

I find it baffling that Ashley James is held up as some poor influencer who is being trolled and bullied, when she threatened to turn up to someone’s house. The police were involved.

All because the person didn’t think it was acceptable that her child was shown left for hours in his own faeces and vomit, while she was hungover.

If they were posting her IG account, that means it was already public so what's the problem?

If they were slagging it off - you put stuff online, chances are someone will come along and say it's crap. People are allowed to have opinions and express them however they want. Having a foul mouthed opinion about someone, their publicly available work or calling them a cunt is not breaking the law (if the website you publish it on has rules about swearing/personal attacks they are at liberty to remove your posts/ban you).

Saying someone has broken the law online and they can prove they haven't - that is defamation. It's one of the main reasons no one came out and called/published that Savile a pedophile when he was still alive - he hadn't been convicted of the crime. It all came out when he died because you can't defame the dead.

So if I say those Paddington drawings were twee fucking crap that's my opinion - I'm not breaking any law.

Hallelujah, I can sleep tonight....

Every wanna be influencer is saying how awful it was but.. they’ve all been glued to every post on there from the sound of it and say way worse things amongst themselves on TikTok.

I read the article and ended up clicking links which lead to a Grazia article that lumped Tattle with Mumsnet! (Along with Reddit, and something called GOMI - Get off my internet, which I never even heard of..). 😮

I remember getting caught down the rabbit hole of Tattle and reading a thread about Kate Lawler not long after she'd given birth. It was genuinely very shocking. The stuff that people were writing about a woman who had literally just given brith and very obviously had quite bad PPD blew my mind. Anyway, I got banned so yay me!

GOMI is American and tends to concentrate on US bloggers and influencers.

I saw a couple of videos on TikTok of some influencers I’ve never heard of really gloating about all users being exposed.
TBH I’ve been really anxious all day because I’ve posted on a certain influencers thread a few times, definitely not often but a few times over a few years. I’ve discussed how the content of this influencer triggered my disordered eating habits and other people were saying the same. A lot of the discussion is based around the influencer covering up old health claims they used to make with no qualifications and not being transparent about their background. I also said I didn’t believe some of the stories they’ve told about themselves. This influencer is extremely wealthy, do I need to worry? Now I feel so stupid for posting this type of thing but at the time I was so frustrated by being taken in by this person.
The only other threads I’ve used have been common interest threads which has been really nice. I am aware of the absolutely horrendous threads though and some are absolutely vile and disgusting.

I wouldn’t worry. Think logically about it, there would be no basis for a Court to order the identity of every single member on Tattle to be revealed. If this happened, then every other chat-forum, newspaper comments, Instagram, TikTok …… could at some stage be asked to provide the identity of all its members/posters.

You haven’t posted anything defamatory. At the very, very worst, your email details and username would be revealed, along with 370K others. You can be sure that some of these 370K are well known people, including influencers. There would be no interest in a random person who posted a few times.

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Only visited tattle once a few yrs back, saw the MN threads, they reminded me of remedial class snot slingers tbh,

MN needs sending up no doubt, but the personal stuff aimed at various user photo's on here were nothing more than dunce level bullying.

Perhaps a few here have alter ego's, lol.
Definitely an anti middle class slant. Can't imagine why anyone would give it even the slightest smattering of fucks, really.

Thing I don’t understand is why hinch with her money could have gone after tattle years ago. She hasn’t. Why could that be? Is it that the police have told her there’s nothing that can be done? She would have to surely prove that the stuff on there is demonstrably false- so is it? That’s why the NI couple had to sue in order to get some sort of action taken.
I read an article about an instagrammer who went to the police about tattle and they said nothing they can do it’s just women bitchin online.
That’s what they’re all being told and yet they’re acting the big I am, trying to go after anonymous posters. Impossible. The best they can hope for is just getting it shut down.

Some influencers and celebrities would shit their pants if they named everyone. So many sock accounts on tattle (Alice Evans has numerous ones) that they wouldn't want people named!

That’s how I ended up reading Tattle back in the day. It was so obvious she was a grifter and nasty. Along with India Knight. She was involved in threatening for doxxing or doxxing. And that’s on top of how those two got their columns anyway. Vile stuff and they were playing the victim card at the time. I just removed myself from that circle jerk. Haven’t been in tattle for years but I remember them.