Boris Johnson -are there challenges in being an older Dad

[mids2019]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14746043/Boris-Johnson-baby-wife-Carrie-announces-fourth-child.html

Boris is 60 and though presumably pretty healthy and wealthy doesn't being 80 when your child is going to be at uni cause challwnges? I always think with these things you are risking a child becoming a care fiver at an early age or having a distorted view of a parent due to a large age gap.

The older Dad option also seems to the option for famous and wealthy men and personally I do not know many women in their bid 30s dating men who by some measures are pensioners.

Good luck to them though

I agree. He's rich but not super rich, and as his days as PM recede into the past, I'm not sure he'll be in great demand as a public speaker. He'll make money from journalism and 'appearances', and I'm sure he has people investing his money wisely. But I'm not sure he'll be capable of funding a massively lavish lifestyle indefinitely.

I said she'd want a fifth to 'beat' her

He'll have a huge inheritance remember

I'm not an incel, so it doesn't logically follow that I would make an "incel BS post." All I did would point out that Boris has had numerous relationships. If he is being selected by numerous women, then that can only mean he is indeed appealing to the opposite sex. It cannot mean anything else.

Someone (Gove?) walked in on Carrie giving him a blow job

Sorry but will a wealthier partner want to take on four kids? She’s not making it very easy for herself if that is her strategy.

I just can’t fathom her thinking to be honest. To take on someone as untruthful, unreliable and unfaithful as Boris; and then have four dc! I think she is in for a very precarious ride tbh.

Isn’t the biggest predictor of current behaviour, past behaviour?

Despite his relative success as London Mayor which it was said was largely down to other people, Boris Johnson turned out as PM to be mendacious, incompetent and completely without vision or beliefs unless they aligned with his own self promotion or added to his own bank account. He also created the sort of leadership in which dysfunction and corruption thrived and the UK is still suffering the ill effects of that.

Having used the issue of Brexit, which continues to do untold harm to the country, as his own personal greasy pole; he didn’t even have the competence, the work ethic or the integrity to be a successful PM. How he doesn’t hang his head in shame I do not know. Actually, I do know; he has a massively inflated ego, entitled and deluded mindset and tungsten hard selfishness, which he hides behind the flummery.

He’s a user, through and through, personally and professionally. How people can still believe in the bumbling facade is beyond me!

Carrie is an educated woman who must understand something of the realities that lie ahead with four dc, and that life amounts to more than cute Instagram photos.

I know I sound like a cow posting the above, and I sincerely hope I am wrong in my predictions. I wouldn’t normally post in such a negative way, especially when someone has had a newborn baby, which is always a cause for celebration, but I am so done with this class of people who somehow feel they are special and skim the cream off the top of the milk, leaving ordinary “boring” people who work hard, to pick up the slack.

Maybe it’s lack of oestrogen but the older I get , the more you see it in every institution from families, charities, small businesses, to large organisations; there are those who do , and those who take.

I don't know how a party that included Farage and Johnson would fare, but, as this thread shows, he remains popular with some people. On paper the attack on the Capital should have ended Trumps's political career but it didn't, so why shouldn't Johnson make a come back?

I think there are still plenty of billionaires ready to throw money at him and in the circles he moves in (Lord Bamford, Lord Lebedev), money and politics have a symbiotic relationship.

From who? Is his father that well off?

It was another minister, cannot remember who. Much as Michael Gove is the rudest man in politics, he would probably have knocked before entering.

I doubt it. His father's career was hardly stratospheric and Boris always claimed he was only able to go to Eton thanks to a scholarship. Plus anything Stanley leaves would presumably be split between all four children.

He's got 6 children I think? Possibly, Boris style, a few more lurking around in the House of Lords too

On paper the attack on the Capital should have ended Trumps's political career but it didn't, so why shouldn't Johnson make a come back?

Because our system is so different from the US's, thank God. Trump basically just had to get himself selected as Presidential candidate and then go through an election. Johnson would have to get selected as a Parliamentary candidate and get elected in the seat in question; he would then have to get elected to lead whichever party he represented; and if it wasn't in power he would have to wait for a GE and get the party elected then. He would be back in the situation he was in before, when he was dependent on party supporters to get legislation through and keep him in power, and would at alll times be vulnerable to votes of no confidence.

The simple fact is that he's lazy, a very bad liar, with some very murky things going on in his past. Even if he became PM again, it's inevitable that he would go back to the pattern of continuously making gaffes, taking money from rich donors and passing legislation to benefit them. He wouldn't last more than a few months at most. I doubt any party is going to risk that.

I stand corrected, I missed out the children from marriage no. 2.

Totally irrelevant, but on checking that out I discovered that Boris's great grandparents were Hubert Freiherr von Pfeffel, Helene Arnoux-Riviere, Winifred Brun and Ali Kemal-Bey. I wonder how many of his more bigoted nationalist right wing supporters knew that?

This. It's so irresponsible. He cannot have been much of a father to his older ones, non existent to his illegitimate ones, and too old for his little ones. I find it ridiculous. I find Carrie really unlikeable too.

And I don't care that she's probably on MN, she chose to be very firmly in the public eye so that comes with the consequence of random internet strangers like us thinking they have the right to comment and make judgment on her life.

In the end it shall likely be where the money comes from

voters have short memories and can often be extremely forgiving despite his unpopularity at present he is charismatic and able to spin a yarn and as recent history shows this is a very powerful weapon in politics. Personality does count

if Starmer was charismatic and able to spin his policies better he woudl be far more popular than he is now

I think it was Conor Burns and the "sharing a glass of wine" was the euphemism.

I am so naive! I assumed they actually meant sharing a glass of wine

Well he will not be able to retire or stop speaking engagements as he has to cough up for the expensive school fees .
Irresponsible man
In the words of that ‘great philosopher ‘ of our time Mr Jeremy Kyle ‘, BJ needs to put something at the end of it ‘

😂😂😂

Yeah he really loves fatherhood. His older children want nothing to do with him and he failed to acknowledge a couple of his other ones.

Thats assuming he pays tax on his money. I’m sure he can hire someone to ensure he doesn’t.

He also alledgedly has at least one other child but took out a super injunction over it so we aren’t allowed to talk about it.

Boris is the same age as my DH. We are older parents and our children are 24 and 21!!

I think they are both utterly nuts to do what they have done. Of course there are disadvantages to being an older father and Boris is getting into the realms of old, not just older. Wasn't his first born just after he nearly died of covid?

My father was 54 when his last child was born. He died at 81 (not bad for a smoker) but left a very heartbroken 28 year old behind.

It’s not all to do with income. It’s about lifetime wealth / capital.

He’s had many years of earning well and presumably investing well.

plus there will be family money, although obviously I have no idea how much. But often these families will have long running trusts set up for the education of the children, with school fees being withdrawn when needed.

Also, private schools tend to offer fee discounts for the third child and beyond. I would guess that Eton may offer generous discount for BJ’s kids but I don’t really know.

These families also often have rich relatives who will pay for one of the kids education in exchange for a few photos and handwritten thank you letters.

It really is a different world.

As for Carrie, I agree with a pp that she’s unlikeable, although can’t really put my finger on why.

I only recently joined Instagram and for some reason she was one of the suggested accounts I should follow, so I did.

The amount of holidaying she does is unreal. Obviously doesn’t give a shit about her carbon footprint. Absolutely living it up globetrotting and at home in her country mansion.

It absolutely screams marriage of convenience to me. I also agree with a pp that she is no great beauty, but she certainly makes the best of herself and keeps herself in great shape. So that, and the fact that she is so much younger, is why BJ is interested.

In exchange, she gets the lifestyle that being married to an older, rich man brings.

They are both getting what they want.

The kids aren’t an issue to him, he won’t be changing nappies. If his younger wife wants a brood of kids to parade on her Instagram and give her something to focus on, he’s happy to oblige.

The amount of holidaying she does is unreal.

I think a lot is paid for by others - singing for their supper at the holiday homes of the super wealthy who think the connection is valuable - or is connected to his paid speaking.

Charitably, she is probably taking advantage of freedom before being tied to a school time table, but she will also know that she needs to be wary of his 'work trips'.

So that, and the fact that she is so much younger, is why BJ is interested.

That and the fact that his last wife wouldn't take him back.

I don't think he has any intentions of leaving his third wife, (Why leave a comfortable home if you don't have to) but being faithful is another matter.

I think what's odd about her is that her mother had an affair with her father, a married man, who didn't want any relationship with her. Any yet she's chosen a man exactly like that as the father of her own kids.