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Boris Johnson -are there challenges in being an older Dad

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mids2019 · 24/05/2025 16:58

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14746043/Boris-Johnson-baby-wife-Carrie-announces-fourth-child.html

Boris is 60 and though presumably pretty healthy and wealthy doesn't being 80 when your child is going to be at uni cause challwnges? I always think with these things you are risking a child becoming a care fiver at an early age or having a distorted view of a parent due to a large age gap.

The older Dad option also seems to the option for famous and wealthy men and personally I do not know many women in their bid 30s dating men who by some measures are pensioners.

Good luck to them though

Boris Johnson's wife Carrie announces arrival of fourth child

Mrs Johnson, 37, said they are 'totally smitten' with their new baby girl whom they have named Poppy Eliza Josephine Johnson. She was born on Wednesday at University College London Hospital

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14746043/Boris-Johnson-baby-wife-Carrie-announces-fourth-child.html

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CharlotteRumpling · 24/05/2025 20:36

What a pathetic couple. I have never understood why having 10 children you barely see is ok if you are rich. Maybe he's trying to outdo Elon Musk.

AlpineMuesli · 24/05/2025 20:50

marshmallowmix · 24/05/2025 20:34

What’s the scoop on that?? Very odd… a peer?

www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/67789/why-does-boris-keep-promoting-charlotte-owen

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 24/05/2025 21:06

Boris Johnson -are there challenges in being an older Dad
I think the far bigger challenge is for his children, who have a loathsome twat (with no moral compass or ethics) as a father.

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Umbilicat · 24/05/2025 21:28

Whenever Boris appears on Carrie’s Instagram with the kids, he looks utterly shattered – I don’t think it’s fair to keep having children with someone who hasn’t the time and energy for them. His oldest four acknowledged children hate him for how he treated their mother. I find the whole situation incredibly sad.

cakeorwine · 24/05/2025 21:28

I do wonder how, with the number of children he has - how does he be a Dad? To be there for them, be involved in their lives?

Christmas, birthdays, family events...

I wonder what kind of relationship he has with his children - adult and children?

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2025 21:33

There are challenges being Boris Johnson.

instant know how he lives with himself let alone thinks producing more of him is a good idea!

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2025 21:36

TheNuthatch · 24/05/2025 20:33

I wish Carrie and her new baby health and happiness.
Some of the comments on this thread are awful. Carrie is a mum of 4, and is probably on MN.

I do t think anything she reads on MN about her DH will shock her.

She knows him and what he’s like. She knows his background and marital history. She knows his politics and she’s as able to read all he’s written in newspapers as much as the rest of us.

She chose to marry him and have 4 kids with him dispute this. She obviously doesn’t care about nah if that or anyone else’s opinion of him.

Delphigirl · 24/05/2025 21:37

Tenducks · 24/05/2025 17:08

Nine children with three mothers! They have enough money and the mother is young enough so new baby will have a privileged life. It’s not as if he will be needed for any hands on stuff.

And the rest

Noseybear38 · 24/05/2025 21:45

Congratulations to them both. I can’t imagine what having 4, 5 and under would be like. It must be impossible unless you have a lot of help.2 is hard enough!

She has put her body through a lot in the last 5 years so I hope they are both doing well.

SwedishEdith · 24/05/2025 21:50

Umbilicat · 24/05/2025 21:28

Whenever Boris appears on Carrie’s Instagram with the kids, he looks utterly shattered – I don’t think it’s fair to keep having children with someone who hasn’t the time and energy for them. His oldest four acknowledged children hate him for how he treated their mother. I find the whole situation incredibly sad.

Is this true or speculation about his older children? It was odd that none of them were there when he became PM.

shuggles · 24/05/2025 21:52

Doggielovecharlotte · 24/05/2025 17:11

What an awful side affect of being anywhere near this man

You can say what you want, but he has had numerous relationships and has had multiple children.

If he was as disgusting and abhorrent as everyone says he is, then women would not be selecting him, and he would never have had a relationship. The fact that he is being selected means that there must be something that other people find appealing about him.

treetopsgreen · 24/05/2025 22:32

If he was as disgusting and abhorrent as everyone says he is, then women would not be selecting him, and he would never have had a relationship.

Err, women have relationships with serial killers on death row! There are always desperate & damaged women.

treetopsgreen · 24/05/2025 22:37

Some of the comments on this thread are awful. Carrie is a mum of 4, and is probably on MN

You don't end up in her position without being pretty brazen

shuggles · 24/05/2025 22:57

@treetopsgreen Err, women have relationships with serial killers on death row! There are always desperate & damaged women.

Those women could very easily have a relationship with a man who is not a serial killer on death row, so I don't believe that's an indication that she's "desperate." It simply means that she's attracted to that man, for whatever reason.

There is a large minority of men who are not selected and don't have the option of having a relationship, so Boris Johnson having a relationship means he couldn't possibly be as repulsive as everyone pretends he is.

Crickacrack · 24/05/2025 22:59

Neetra30 · 24/05/2025 17:34

Why cant Boris focus on his existing kids instead of having more?
Exactly what PP said, imagine how his older kids would feel

Exactly this. So sad.

BCBird · 24/05/2025 23:00

9.kids🙄

treetopsgreen · 24/05/2025 23:02

@shuggles there are lots of weird people. I think most men can find a woman to date them, the ones who aren't "selected" as you say likely have unrealistic standards.

Why do you think people are pretending to find him repulsive? And why would the fact he's married mean other women can't find him repulsive?

TheNuthatch · 24/05/2025 23:03

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2025 21:36

I do t think anything she reads on MN about her DH will shock her.

She knows him and what he’s like. She knows his background and marital history. She knows his politics and she’s as able to read all he’s written in newspapers as much as the rest of us.

She chose to marry him and have 4 kids with him dispute this. She obviously doesn’t care about nah if that or anyone else’s opinion of him.

The wives and children of politicians are not fair game. This should apply to Johnson too.

treetopsgreen · 24/05/2025 23:08

It simply means that she's attracted to that man, for whatever reason.

I'm sure there is something that she finds attractive about him, so what? To have an affair with someone married who is much older than you & a serial cheater. Who has dc he doesn't see & then pop out 4 dc with them doesn't imo show a great deal of sensibility to put it mildly.

Crickacrack · 24/05/2025 23:11

TheNuthatch · 24/05/2025 23:03

The wives and children of politicians are not fair game. This should apply to Johnson too.

No one should insult his kids and I don’t think anyone has but Carrie is an adult who chose to get with him in particular circumstances. She is a public figure and is not immune from criticism.

MJOverInvestor · 24/05/2025 23:15

Tenducks · 24/05/2025 17:08

Nine children with three mothers! They have enough money and the mother is young enough so new baby will have a privileged life. It’s not as if he will be needed for any hands on stuff.

More probably…

WooleyMunky · 24/05/2025 23:19

mids2019 · 24/05/2025 16:58

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14746043/Boris-Johnson-baby-wife-Carrie-announces-fourth-child.html

Boris is 60 and though presumably pretty healthy and wealthy doesn't being 80 when your child is going to be at uni cause challwnges? I always think with these things you are risking a child becoming a care fiver at an early age or having a distorted view of a parent due to a large age gap.

The older Dad option also seems to the option for famous and wealthy men and personally I do not know many women in their bid 30s dating men who by some measures are pensioners.

Good luck to them though

I think it is somewhat easier when you are trousering the kind of cash that Al is every year.
Plus all of the extra-marital he is nailing.

sundaybloodysunday12 · 24/05/2025 23:20

BeTwinklyKhakiPanda · 24/05/2025 18:44

One of the few things I admire about Boris Johnson is his ability to attract extremely capable women. I am sure Carrie wanted her 4 children and will be a wonderful mother to them, and able to provide for them if he cannot / does not.

I don’t think Carrie is capable at all.

She’s a social climber and she’s tenacious but that’s about it.

from what I understand she has got jobs through nepotism, quickly shown that she is not capable of doing the job, and is asked to resign.

shuggles · 24/05/2025 23:21

@treetopsgreen there are lots of weird people. I think most men can find a woman to date them,

I would agree it's probably "most" meaning more than 50%, but that's disregarding the large minority of men who are not selected by women and do not have the option of a relationship.

the ones who aren't "selected" as you say likely have unrealistic standards.

That's false. If you take Tinder as an example, I believe men match with women, on average, 1 in every 40 right swipes. So right at the beginning, only 2.5% of women are prepared to talk to the average men. A smaller % of women will want to date... then an even smaller % will want to have a relationship... then an even smaller % will want to stick around for the long term. I believe in my own lifetime, only one woman ever asked me for a date. So the evidence would indicate that it's down to the fact that men have a tiny pool of options to begin with, not that men are being picky.

Nominative · 24/05/2025 23:25

By the time he's 80 he'll probably be onto the next family, so with any luck this one won't be called on to rally round.

Poor kids. Can you imagine the sheer embarrassment of going to school and learning about the idiot who promoted the disaster of Brexit and then messed it up even more, and about the PM who managed to get chucked out of office within three years of being elected when virtually his entire party turned against him - and realising that that was your father?