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Diddy trial

133 replies

wisteriadrive · 15/05/2025 13:03

Anyone following this ?
It’s disgusting and fascinating at the same time !
I really feel for cassie, heavily pregnant and reliving all that horrible stuff she went through.

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WhyDoesItAlways · 03/07/2025 15:58

Latest I've seen is a lawyer suggesting it could be as low as 2-3 years each to run concurrently not consecutively. By the time sentencing comes around he will have already served a year. Doesn't seem much for what he inflicted on his victims. There is in the region of 150 civil cases being bought against him too so I don't think the criminal charges even scratch the surface to be honest.

657904I · 03/07/2025 16:44

Yes, not guilty to all the serious offences.

To be honest I get the impression it was more “not guilty” due to technicalities as opposed to not guilty due to innocence!

I think the prosecution didn’t prepare the case well enough and his defence team ran rings around them and had a better strategy. The government had contradictory witness testimony etc seems a bit of a mess from the prosecution.

Given the day 2 jury dispute over RICO, some of the jury did feel he was guilty. So it seems the prosecution were close but didn’t hit the relevant legal points hard enough for a unanimous guilty verdict, considering some of the jury changed their mind. I think it was more that there were gaps in the evidence presented and the jury was left to infer he committed these crimes instead of the evidence showing it beyond reasonable doubt.

657904I · 03/07/2025 16:51

WhyDoesItAlways · 03/07/2025 15:58

Latest I've seen is a lawyer suggesting it could be as low as 2-3 years each to run concurrently not consecutively. By the time sentencing comes around he will have already served a year. Doesn't seem much for what he inflicted on his victims. There is in the region of 150 civil cases being bought against him too so I don't think the criminal charges even scratch the surface to be honest.

Sure. The government requested 4-5 year sentence and his defence asked for immediate release. So somewhere in the middle is a reasonable guess. He isn’t going to do much time in prison.

But he’ll suffer in other ways. A man of his age, who also spent a significant time addicted to hard drugs, will likely have general poor health outcomes/poor life expectancy as he continues to age. Beyond that, this will impact his legacy, the companies that are willing to work with him, and his income. His children are his next source of income but I doubt they have as much commercial potential given the controversy. So it’s not a complete win for him.

Plus if the government is targeting him as claimed, they can build another case against him easier whilst he’s locked up.

heidyho · 03/07/2025 20:42

Let's hope another lawsuit crops up before he gets out..a man as depraved as he is cannot be let back out into society. What kind of message does it convey to our youth?

657904I · 03/07/2025 21:08

I can’t lie, I find his criminality quite confusing. Because although there was some concerning activity, the verdict essentially exonerates him. I think the outcome of this case, will give him leverage in the civil cases against him unfortunately. It almost feels like the wrong outcome was reached but that was only due to the government presenting a weak case.

AliceMcK · 03/07/2025 23:47

Given the charges directed at him I thought the prosecution would have had more solid evidence. I found the rico charges a stretch. The man is a disgusting depraved monster there is no doubt but from what was presented, was that enough for rico? I think the prosecution were desperate to just get something to stick to him.

Someone mention about the hotel video not being taken into account, it was my understanding he was not on trial for that abuse, that was to establish his behaviour towards Cassie.

I think the civil cases will break him, if not they should, there is enough evidence for them as the bar is far lower in civil cases and I understand there are a good few that have been filed.

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 05/07/2025 11:47

657904I · 03/07/2025 21:08

I can’t lie, I find his criminality quite confusing. Because although there was some concerning activity, the verdict essentially exonerates him. I think the outcome of this case, will give him leverage in the civil cases against him unfortunately. It almost feels like the wrong outcome was reached but that was only due to the government presenting a weak case.

I disagree this gives him leverage in civil cases. The standard of proof in criminal cases is higher than in civil cases. In England that's the difference between "beyond reasonable doubt", i.e. are you sure?; and "on the balance of probabilities". That's why in some high profile cases, families have pursued civil cases for damages when criminal cases have failed, e.g. OJ Simpson was found not guilty of murder, but Nicole Brown's family won the civil case they brought against him.

657904I · 05/07/2025 19:00

The thing is, the law is different in America. In fact I found myself thinking what would the UK courts/police do a lot during his trial as maybe a different outcome would be reached?

From what I read online, some of the 100+ plaintiffs in his civil cases case referred to the criminal trial against him and used similar wording. So I don’t know if those aspects might fail as he would say a jury found him not guilty. But yes generally, the burden of proof should be lower so hopefully the civil cases are successful

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