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Labour isn't working - Thread 3

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TheNuthatch · 12/05/2025 15:45

A thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

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TheNuthatch · 04/06/2025 14:38

Busy day at work today so I only caught a bit of pmqs. Starmer was as odious and machiavellian as always in the bit I heard.

Not only does he think he is so special that he doesn't need to answer questions (unless they're from a labour plant), he accused Badenoch again of being some kind of Russian sympathiser. I also heard that line again; 'in the same column as Russia, Iran and China'.
This is how Starmer reacts when his atrocious governance is interrogated.

Ed Davey is being oh so polite with the PM. He's obviously eyeing a future coalition, so wouldn't dare hold Starmer's feet to the fire on issues that the Lib Dems claim to care about.

Rant over 😂

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EasternStandard · 04/06/2025 14:59

Thanks for taking one for the team @TheNuthatchI find him so odious I can’t listen these days.

TheNuthatch · 04/06/2025 17:25

EasternStandard · 04/06/2025 14:59

Thanks for taking one for the team @TheNuthatchI find him so odious I can’t listen these days.

This made me laugh.
I only managed 5 minutes through a single airpod before I got angry. 😂

James Cleverly is giving a speech tonight. Be still my beating heart! 💙Grin

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EasternStandard · 04/06/2025 18:27

TheNuthatch · 04/06/2025 17:25

This made me laugh.
I only managed 5 minutes through a single airpod before I got angry. 😂

James Cleverly is giving a speech tonight. Be still my beating heart! 💙Grin

Haha a single AirPod 😬

Good luck to Cleverly wonder if there’ll be a leadership change at some point.

I don’t mind Kemi but I think she faces extra misogyny and worse from Labour lot.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/06/2025 18:41

Keir Starmer sounds like a petulant schoolboy most days!

CinnamonSquirrel · 04/06/2025 18:55

Badenoch is awful and needs replacing. They haven't got a hope with her. Cleverly is probably the best chance they have.

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Itcantbetrue · 04/06/2025 21:17

I can't tolerate the incompetence.
The only half good thing looks like castrating peadophiles

Parsley1234 · 04/06/2025 21:30

Those poor chaps having to listen to that crap droning on 🤣🤣🤣

EasternStandard · 04/06/2025 21:34

Haha that is brilliant.

He’s really hating it all. I don’t blame him 😬

EasternStandard · 05/06/2025 08:00

Just listening to a very good baroness on the creative industry, AI and opposing the bill. She’s right, we’re undervaluing what we have creatively and allowing theft.

I hope they win on that.

TheNuthatch · 05/06/2025 09:55

EasternStandard · 05/06/2025 08:00

Just listening to a very good baroness on the creative industry, AI and opposing the bill. She’s right, we’re undervaluing what we have creatively and allowing theft.

I hope they win on that.

I missed that, sounds like a good interview. I had the radio on on my commute but it was the lovely Phillipson spouting crap. Yes I hope it's defeated too. Hopefully the Lords will see to it.

I'm also hoping the planning bill fails. The Guardian have done some good reporting on this. There are some important habitats at risk that we will never get back.

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TheNuthatch · 05/06/2025 09:58

Itcantbetrue · 04/06/2025 21:17

I can't tolerate the incompetence.
The only half good thing looks like castrating peadophiles

I suspect Mahmood will lose her castration budget in next week's spending review 😂

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TheNuthatch · 05/06/2025 15:20

A good piece by Deborah Haynes re defence spending. Could explain why Reeves is throwing so much borrowed capital spending at transport projects.
https://news.sky.com/story/the-uk-and-nato-expected-to-agree-to-a-trump-inspired-pledge-for-5-on-defence-spending-but-watch-out-for-smoke-and-mirrors-13379213

The UK and NATO expected to agree to a Trump-inspired pledge for 5% on defence spending - but watch out for smoke and mirrors

Matthew Whitaker, Donald Trump's NATO ambassador, said the UK and other allies must agree to spend at least 5% of national income on defence and security "starting now".

https://news.sky.com/story/the-uk-and-nato-expected-to-agree-to-a-trump-inspired-pledge-for-5-on-defence-spending-but-watch-out-for-smoke-and-mirrors-13379213

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TheNuthatch · 05/06/2025 17:39

Zia Yusuf has resigned as chair of Reform UK.

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Mypinkchequebookholder · 05/06/2025 18:28

That's a shame but he always was a businessman and not a politician.

He's a multi-millionaire and probably has other (more lucrative) fish to fry.

Parsley1234 · 05/06/2025 19:16

Shame he’s great eye
candy and talks sense

TheNuthatch · 05/06/2025 19:24

I think Reform will miss having him on board. He seemed talented.

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TheNuthatch · 06/06/2025 09:31

Hamilton results, and shares.

Labour isn't working - Thread 3
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EasternStandard · 06/06/2025 09:34

TheNuthatch · 06/06/2025 09:31

Hamilton results, and shares.

Thanks for this. That Reform increase looks like it’ll cause some headaches for other parties.

TheNuthatch · 06/06/2025 09:50

Interesting interview with the head of The Council of Europe on the front of the Times this morning re ECHR. (I can't link as I buy the actual newspaper).

The European Convention on Human Rights must adapt in the face of a growing political backlash against migration, with '"no taboo" on rewriting it's rules, the head of the Council of Europe has said.
In a rare interview, the chief of the organisation said the binding legal text for 46 countries including Britain which is regularly invoked in asylum cases, should be reformed.
Alan Berset, secretary general of the Council of Europe (CoE) and a former president of Switzerland, acknowledged recent criticism from across the continent of the 75 year old convention.
"We are witnessing a world where things are changing rapidly. It is accelerating. We see this and it is normal that we must also adapt to this. We need adaptation. We need discussion about the rules that we want to have, and there is no taboo".

Amen to that!

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EasternStandard · 06/06/2025 09:57

@TheNuthatch I was going to buy the paper for once as I don't subscribe either. About time it was addressed, I've been saying the same for ages! It'll be interesting to see what they propose.

TheNuthatch · 06/06/2025 10:08

EasternStandard · 06/06/2025 09:57

@TheNuthatch I was going to buy the paper for once as I don't subscribe either. About time it was addressed, I've been saying the same for ages! It'll be interesting to see what they propose.

I've lost count of the arguments I've had on MN over this. PPs suggesting it can't be done, without losing all of our human rights etc.

Berset's comments are an invitation to British and European critics of the ECHR in it's present form to contact him at the council in Strasbourg to begin talks on reform.

Lets hope they do. Perhaps Starmer will pretend that this was his view all along Hmm. Badenoch is giving a speech this morning on the ECHR.

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EasternStandard · 06/06/2025 10:27

Same. I said a couple of years ago the laws would change. The usual backlash of course. Seems being ahead gets you nada but Labour inspired carnage.

TheNuthatch · 06/06/2025 10:37

Another good story in the The Times about Downing St 'examining proposals to issue every adult in Britain with a digital ID card'.
'Detailed plans for the card have been shared with Downing St by Labour Together, a think tank which was previously led by Morgan McSweeney'.
It it's report, published today, it calls for Starmer to make digital identity a top prime ministerial priority'.

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