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Thread 23 Starmer - Reflux Remedy

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DuncinToffee · 06/05/2025 20:44

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itsgettingweird · 16/05/2025 19:41

Notonthestairs · 16/05/2025 09:54

Yes, Lowe explicitly mentioned getting rid of equality legislation.
He seemed deeply nostalgic for the country as it had been when he was growing up. As if getting rid of legislation might mean the last 40-50 years could be dispensed with.

Yeah the good old days when those with disabilities were shut away in institutions.

The more he talks the more he leads me to believe this is exactly what he’d do.

He’d probably remove maternity pay, paternity leave etc too.

itsgettingweird · 16/05/2025 19:46

derxa · 16/05/2025 17:27

The only impressive Cabinet member is Wes Streeting So what that he’s ambitious. He makes clear statements and changes his mind with an explanation. When he speaks I listen. He doesn’t seem to hand out insults like Keir.

I’m becoming more impressed by him as time goes on. I said earlier this thread or an earlier one about the interview I heard of him and how clear he was and how he never got flustered and explained change in mind to match research.

littledrummergirls · 16/05/2025 21:03

I've not heard any speeches this week. Heres a view from the top of Vesuvius as I have nothing to add to the conversation right now. Smile

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Goldenbear · 16/05/2025 21:40

littledrummergirls · 16/05/2025 21:03

I've not heard any speeches this week. Heres a view from the top of Vesuvius as I have nothing to add to the conversation right now. Smile

Wow - very envious, beautiful view!

MaybeNotBob · 16/05/2025 22:41

Apropos of nothing...

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Alexandra2001 · 17/05/2025 07:19

itsgettingweird · 16/05/2025 19:46

I’m becoming more impressed by him as time goes on. I said earlier this thread or an earlier one about the interview I heard of him and how clear he was and how he never got flustered and explained change in mind to match research.

I'm not, he done nothing about Dentistry or Hospice funding, also, my DD neuro/stroke unit is losing staff and facing cuts, these aren't former Tory ones but introduced by Labour right now.

The district hospital also has to find millions in savings.

Appreciate he doesn't hold all the purse strings but he is health secretary & unless they/he gets NHS/Dentistry sorted, Labour will be judged very harshly in 2029, regardless of Reform.

If they think reversing WFA will help them, sadly mistaken, they need to make a difference to peoples lives, ones they can really feel or folk will go else where.

Unbelievable the talk in the dept of transport is to increase council parking fines to £120... are these people fucking mad????

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2025 07:29

I thought councils set their own parking fines, does the DoT micromanage to that extent? If so, it’s time it stopped.

i don’t think anyone will give a shit about WFA by 2029 if there’s been achievement in areas that make people feel better economically. I do agree with you about dentistry, it’s shocking that the most prevalent cause of children’s surgical admissions is removing decayed teeth.

Alexandra2001 · 17/05/2025 08:02

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2025 07:29

I thought councils set their own parking fines, does the DoT micromanage to that extent? If so, it’s time it stopped.

i don’t think anyone will give a shit about WFA by 2029 if there’s been achievement in areas that make people feel better economically. I do agree with you about dentistry, it’s shocking that the most prevalent cause of children’s surgical admissions is removing decayed teeth.

Govt set the max parking fine .... like council tax.

Parking charges and fines are things that people see in their daily lives, its almost as if Labour have a death wish, the 'papers will have a field day with "Labours War on Motorists..."

Yes this rubbish about emergency appoints.... so you get offered an extraction or a filling, any remedial or follow up wont be done, has to wait until it becomes an emergency....
Crowns root canal wont be done either.... its just the old Tory failed policy.

100% on childrens dentistry.

MsJinks · 17/05/2025 08:25

Not sad for Lawrence Fox - he ruined reruns of Lewis for me 😞
Assumed he had his own/family money though - grifter.

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2025 08:53

I have to admit that I found him very attractive when he was young, despite being old enough to be his mum. What on earth happened to turn him into this travesty of his younger self?

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2025 10:47

@Alexandra2001, do you have a link re parking fines? All I can find is that they’re being capped because some councils want to increase them to as much as £160.

Piggywaspushed · 17/05/2025 11:02

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2025 08:53

I have to admit that I found him very attractive when he was young, despite being old enough to be his mum. What on earth happened to turn him into this travesty of his younger self?

Oh no - he has never had a chin!

placemats · 17/05/2025 11:27

Loving the holiday photos. Thanks for sharing x.

Agree with your excellent post @MsJinks

Added tax. My oriental poppies bloomed overnight and one still to go. The bees love them. Can you spot them?

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SerendipityJane · 17/05/2025 11:33

Just for fun, here's a ChatGPT prompt ...:

Prepare a official looking graph that shows that high street decline - as a function of number of shops, footfall and overall turnover - reduced in line with the increase in local authority parking fees - on a trend from 2015 to 2024. I can't give you any baseline figures, but need you to add some metric to explain the graph. I may add further instructions on amending the graph once you have provided it.

and here's it's result (graph attached and output below):

Here is the initial official-style graph showing the decline in high street performance — number of shops, footfall, and turnover — in correlation with rising local authority parking fees from 2015 to 2024.
All figures are illustrative and labeled in relative or arbitrary units to represent the trend.
Let me know what specific edits you'd like to make (e.g., color changes, data label additions, annotations, reformatting, or exporting for presentation)

(The interesting thing here is that the prompt to ChatGPT was itself generated by an "AI" model.)

And I'm not that bright. Imagine what someone clever could do with a tool like that and an even more dim audience.

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Rivypike · 17/05/2025 12:28

Alexandra2001 · 17/05/2025 08:02

Govt set the max parking fine .... like council tax.

Parking charges and fines are things that people see in their daily lives, its almost as if Labour have a death wish, the 'papers will have a field day with "Labours War on Motorists..."

Yes this rubbish about emergency appoints.... so you get offered an extraction or a filling, any remedial or follow up wont be done, has to wait until it becomes an emergency....
Crowns root canal wont be done either.... its just the old Tory failed policy.

100% on childrens dentistry.

How long are you giving them to turn things round ?

Alexandra2001 · 17/05/2025 13:21

Rivypike · 17/05/2025 12:28

How long are you giving them to turn things round ?

I'll make my mind up in 2029, no point in going over board atm.

Write to your, hopefully Lab MP, thats how we'll get changes, which are always best done from within.

@BIossomtoes No link, just what R4 reported this morning, if it is a cap, it needs to either stay as it is or be lowered, parking fines should be no where nr as high as a speeding ticket.

DuncinToffee · 17/05/2025 13:58

I saw this being said somewhere

Labour are hiding their successes but yell about their weaknesses.

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Zonder · 17/05/2025 14:02

DuncinToffee · 17/05/2025 13:58

I saw this being said somewhere

Labour are hiding their successes but yell about their weaknesses.

This is what I don't understand. They are so shit. I voted for them. I voted for KS as leader back in the day. Why aren't they broadcasting their successes? And why are they talking like a pound shop Farage?

LlynTegid · 17/05/2025 14:32

Zonder · 17/05/2025 14:02

This is what I don't understand. They are so shit. I voted for them. I voted for KS as leader back in the day. Why aren't they broadcasting their successes? And why are they talking like a pound shop Farage?

I agree about hiding successes even though I did not vote for them. Though most of the success is not making things worse which would have happened under another Tory government.

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2025 14:56

DuncinToffee · 17/05/2025 13:58

I saw this being said somewhere

Labour are hiding their successes but yell about their weaknesses.

Totally. I’ve droned on about this for so long I’ve bored myself.

placemats · 17/05/2025 15:36

The island of strangers in context. Starmer's speech:

"Nations depend on rules - fair rules. Sometimes they're written down, often they are not, but either way, they give shape to our values.

They guide us towards our rights, of course, but also our responsibilities, the obligations we owe to one another. Now, in a diverse nation like ours, and I celebrate that, these rules become even more important. Without them, we risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks together."

I'm on board with all of this.

cardibach · 17/05/2025 15:56

Yes @placemats It’s been used cynically to suggest the opposite of what he said.
I am knackered today after doing 8.5 miles all uphill. Little pic of woodland which was nice. It’s all oak trees out here.

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placemats · 17/05/2025 15:57

How beautiful ❤️ @cardibach

SerendipityJane · 17/05/2025 16:10

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2025 14:56

Totally. I’ve droned on about this for so long I’ve bored myself.

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It's almost like they have taken being anti-Tory to a rather sad comclusion.

Tories would SCREAM about positive forecasts and then quietly skip over the poorer results.

Here we have a government that seems to revel in the poor forecasts, and positively embarrassed by better than expected results.

It's almost what I would expect if I asked an "AI" model to advise on policy. But no one in power is that stupid or lazy[1], so there must be another reason.

[1] Well you would think that. Until you realise that "AI" produced that graph upthread. And I held back the 5 paragraph news story it flawlessly generated with perfect grammar, spelling and nuance[2]

[2] If you live life by statistics[3] you will already have "this is too well written to be human" as a reverse CATCHA

[3] If you hear hooves think horses, not zebras.

dontcallmelen · 17/05/2025 16:14

placemats · 17/05/2025 15:57

How beautiful ❤️ @cardibach

Yy
also Litteldrummergirl fab photos of your trip I have many happy memories of a fabulous holiday in Sorrento & visited Pompeii/Vesuvius enjoy.

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