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Dd18 social withdrawal, don't know what else to do.

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evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 10:08

Sorry in advance for the length of this.

My DD is 18 and in final year of A levels , about to sit exams next month. She is a quiet girl and although actually really likes to socialise , has always struggled with friendships. I really thought college would be the answer to this but she hasn't really connected with anyone there either. She has struggled with the subjects she is studying , and it's been pretty rocky all round. DD from the beginning of college , has managed her time in college by skipping classes in a subject she is doing ok in, to study in a test/exam in a class she isn't doing ok in.

She is on her phone a lot and while she is studying hard now, has had huge periods of inertia and isn't where she should be with predicted grades. She has never been put under pressure academically by me , but she wants to do well and at least achieve C/B grades.

Because of the way she managed her time, attendance at college has been below average at best. At the moment it's terrible. We've argued for basically two years about her time management and suffice to say our home hasn't been a happy one. Not to put to fine a point on it, it's been bloody hideous. I'm a single parent and more often than not , her punching bag for every emotion she has. I get it , it's my job - but some days I feel on my knees absorbing it all.

She has one best friend from high school who is lovely but also quiet and shy like her and they don't socialise much in person.

Cut to today and although she is studying hard at home , she has been refusing to attend college for the last 6 weeks consistently and is now not going at all. She is anxious and experiencing overwhelm and panic symptoms when she has tried to go in. After much reluctance, she agreed to see a doctor and they prescribed beta blockers and signposted her for therapy services. I had already arranged reduced-cost private counselling a few months ago and a slot came up two weeks ago but she refused to take it. She believes her exams are the priority and she will not be able to get anything out of counselling until they're done. She isn't taking the beta blocker either. Her plan now is to stay at home and study and attend for exams only.

I've been in touch regularly with her college but they're pretty disinterested. I've let them know she is overwhelmed and anxious but they've never reached out or tried to offer anything in the way of support. They have a policy of no direct contact between teachers and parents.

I contacted the exam office and they've said they can offer her rest breaks and a quiet room on the day of her exams and that's it. I've accepted my daughter won't go back to college now until the exams start but here is my problem: she will not communicate with her teachers about work and has had huge meltdowns with me about communicating her problems to them as well. All the communication I've had with them has had to be agreed with her to the last letter as she doesn't want them to know the extent of her challenges. I asked her doctor to provide a letter for college outlining her challenges and asking for adjustments on exam days , but DD demanded the letter from me and won't let give it to them. I don't understand her reasoning but then I'm guessing that anxiety has robbed her of her logic. She seems highly fixated on their perception of her (but denies that this is the case)
I have of course spoken to them anyway but I've had to hide that from her. She won't communicate with her teachers directly and so to them, she just isn't turning up and they don't actually know she is working hard at home. They'll have had a message from pastoral to say she's got anxiety I'm sure , but she is not engaging with them on their student platform either so they've no other information from her on her current level of study , homework etc. Is there any chance they could withdraw my daughter from the exams at all? Is there something I need to put in place to ensure they don't?

As it stands, I don't even know if she will be able to attend on the days of the exams if she can't get in the building now, however any possibility of a discussion about this with DD is met with huge anger, screaming and rage. She is angry pretty much constantly. Her tolerance for any demands outside of her study is on the floor. She doesnt leave the house much at all and I'm seriously worried about her mental wellbeing. DD is a bright, funny and articulate girl but rigid and uptight in almost all aspects of her life and I have questioned ND for a number of years. If she doesn't make it into college on the day of her exams , I know it will destroy her.

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Itchyblister · 01/05/2025 07:41

What kind of a relationship with her dad do you have?

could you share your concerns?

he needs to stop paying for unlimited data so that you turning WiFi off at 11pm-7am actually works

Itchyblister · 01/05/2025 07:43

Nevermindthebuzzard · 30/04/2025 23:02

Every single thing you've said about her screams ND. you've done her a huge disservice by simply joking about it for years and never doing anything to get her assessed.

I have to say
I agree

and now the consequence is a deteriorating and very serious mental health condition

evermineeverthine · 01/05/2025 09:02

Nevermindthebuzzard · 30/04/2025 23:02

Every single thing you've said about her screams ND. you've done her a huge disservice by simply joking about it for years and never doing anything to get her assessed.

Helpful. Also helpful that you'd assume she'd ever want an assessment. You don't know my DD from a few messages online. I do love the MN tropes about ND as though a diagnosis suddenly becomes a panacea for services and concessions that she could access. It's also been explained here why it was a niggle I've had rather than a screaming loud voice. I can't even get her into PRIVATE therapy without paying £60 an hour and a 4 month waiting list and even then she is refusing to go, so pipe down.

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Nevermindthebuzzard · 01/05/2025 15:01

evermineeverthine · 01/05/2025 09:02

Helpful. Also helpful that you'd assume she'd ever want an assessment. You don't know my DD from a few messages online. I do love the MN tropes about ND as though a diagnosis suddenly becomes a panacea for services and concessions that she could access. It's also been explained here why it was a niggle I've had rather than a screaming loud voice. I can't even get her into PRIVATE therapy without paying £60 an hour and a 4 month waiting list and even then she is refusing to go, so pipe down.

It's not a panacea, no, but as a late diagnosed woman i can tell you that it's transformed my life to suddenly having a reason and explanations for the way i am. It means I've been able to develop coping mechanisms for living in a neurotypical world. I wish id had that chance much earlier in my life.

You're her parent. You ignored it when you had the chance to do something about it earlier and this is the consequence. Now you're more worried about how you feel about her lack of socialising as evidenced by the thread title.

You can tell me to pipe down all you want, but i think the reason you're pissed off with me is because you know I'm right.

evermineeverthine · 01/05/2025 15:45

Nevermindthebuzzard · 01/05/2025 15:01

It's not a panacea, no, but as a late diagnosed woman i can tell you that it's transformed my life to suddenly having a reason and explanations for the way i am. It means I've been able to develop coping mechanisms for living in a neurotypical world. I wish id had that chance much earlier in my life.

You're her parent. You ignored it when you had the chance to do something about it earlier and this is the consequence. Now you're more worried about how you feel about her lack of socialising as evidenced by the thread title.

You can tell me to pipe down all you want, but i think the reason you're pissed off with me is because you know I'm right.

The thing is - I don't think you're right. I don't think you're right any more than I think I'm right.

What I'd never do though is go onto someone's thread who is clearly struggling with their situation, and claim to know more about it than they do. I'd never speak with such inflated confidence on a person I know so little about at all, and neither would I then lambast them on failings that I've decided they have, based on a few posts.

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RainyDayCoffee · 01/05/2025 16:15

I wonder why people comment when they don't have anything helpful to say. It takes a million years to get a diagnosis on the nhs, not everyone has the money to diagnose privately, diagnosed children struggle to get hold of medication and when they eventually do the bloody meds do not work on everyone.
I have a teen diagnosed at 17 and is medicated. She has therapy and is still struggling most of the time. I know she needs to make lifestyle changes to compliment her medication and therapy but she just isn't ready yet. I hope it will come with age and time but for the moment I just have to accept she is how she is and give her space and time.
A diagnosis isn't a magic wand. Maybe for mature adults but not for everyone.

SunnyFog · 01/05/2025 18:50

Autism symptoms include black and white thinking, impaired theory of mind, and poor social skills, including getting angry.
For example, believing that autism diagnosis is helpful and everyone who doesn't agree is wrong. thinking that because you are happy to go through the autism diagnostic process, that everyone else would also want to.
Shouting across the ether at someone in a way that isn't called for.
Diagnosis doesn't make these symptoms go away.

DeborahVance · 01/05/2025 19:19

I am in a similar boat OP. I think it's just a question of getting through it at this stage, and picking up the pieces in August. My DD hasn't been to school since about four weeks before Easter and isn't doing any revision either. I think she's given up. It's heartbreaking because her orbital target grades were all As and A*s but she just couldn't cope.

Exploring a diagnosis might be helpful as a next step, but my DD was dx-ed at 9. Autism doesn't go away and her particular PDA presentation is really hard to support. The stress of it all has tipped her over

Marilynmansonsthermos · 01/05/2025 20:13

This is so sad to read OP as your description is exactly like my dd18 who has recently been diagnosed as having adhd and ptsd due to a traumatic incident I didn’t know about. There is light at the end of the tunnel. We found a really quality counsellor and my dd speaks to her once a week for the last year. The counsellor helped us to get her nhs diagnosis. It has done wonders. She was also SO much happier when she left studies behind. She now has a part time job and is doing an access course at adult college which is much less stressful for her than being round huge groups of other teens. Treat your dd as if she is neurodiverse and maybe try and talk to her about pursuing a diagnosis. I just wanted you to know that I was in a similar position and things did change so don’t give up hope. people saying why did you not do this/that..well the whole diagnosis thing is extremely hard to navigate especially if you don’t have money for private..so people should not be judging. It sounds like you are a great mum and doing your best.

Marilynmansonsthermos · 01/05/2025 20:16

Nevermindthebuzzard · 01/05/2025 15:01

It's not a panacea, no, but as a late diagnosed woman i can tell you that it's transformed my life to suddenly having a reason and explanations for the way i am. It means I've been able to develop coping mechanisms for living in a neurotypical world. I wish id had that chance much earlier in my life.

You're her parent. You ignored it when you had the chance to do something about it earlier and this is the consequence. Now you're more worried about how you feel about her lack of socialising as evidenced by the thread title.

You can tell me to pipe down all you want, but i think the reason you're pissed off with me is because you know I'm right.

I think you need to leave the op alone and stop projecting. If you don’t have money it takes years and years to get a diagnosis on the nhs.

evermineeverthine · 02/05/2025 00:00

teacher987 · 30/04/2025 12:09

Teacher here. This is increasingly common, OP. A pattern I've noticed from talking to the parents and students is way too much phone use (or gaming for many boys), staying up really late, being too tired in the morning, missing class, falling behind, being too embarrassed to attend because they don't want friends or teacher to realise how behind they are, convincing themselves they can catch up on their own so stop coming completely.

It could be something else for her, but if this seems at all familiar, I would start by turning off all WiFi, data and TV at 11pm. Basically no addictive dopamine hits after that (I would also slowly bring this time down to 9/10pm). You'll be amazed how sleep can transform mood. Also loneliness is a huge motivator to seek out company (if you can't get it from you phone). Honestly, if her phone was to break tomorrow, it would be the best thing for her imo. You'd need a printer to print out past papers and mark schemes, then get her to sit in a quiet room with no distractions (including phones) and go through these. I've tutored students who have hyper focused at this point and come away with an A.

Secondly, I get my classes to download "Keep Me Out" - it's an app that will lock your phone completely for an hour, or however long you want. You should show her this.

Thirdly, can you print out a blank weekly revision timetable to give her? I could attach one here: they are to write in exactly what they will study and when (e.g. 10-11am integration by parts - really specific!) and it has tick boxes in the bottom corner if each slot so they can tick off when they've successfully completed that slot. They should use the app to lock their phone for these slots. Make sure she takes the breaks too - knowing you HAVE TO stop in 15mins will make you much more focused.

Hope this helps. But be positive, there are many options if she fails, and sometimes students have to experience that in order to grow from it! Good luck Smile

I missed this amazingly helpful post. Thank you so so much.
Thanks also to the wonderful posters who commented on the unhelpful shouty crusader earlier. Black and white thinking indeed x

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Chewy my DD actually made plans to have her hair done yesterday with her friend. She got a voucher for Christmas and went off to use it. She doesn't see this friend much in person although they talk every day. I was really pleased. She came back visibly cheerier.
I know from my DD's pattern that she can do this - see her friend like nothings been going on, and then that's it for weeks upon weeks. Back to not going out at all. It's why I end up so confused sometimes, because there are bursts of teenage normalcy.
She doesn't want to do anything else this weekend but did watch some telly with me last night so I'll take that.

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groovylady · 04/05/2025 09:22

Agree with pp.
Back off completely.
I know it's hard seeing them self sabotage, but sometimes the wheels have to come off before help is accepted.
Take care xx

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JoeySchoolOfActing · 04/05/2025 16:13

@evermineeverthine I totally get that confusion, I feel similarly sometimes about my DD.

Sounds like a trip out to have her hair done with her friend and some time with you watching TV last night are two wins, absolutely take that!

evermineeverthine · 04/05/2025 16:45

Yes thanks both. Little chinks of light like these ones are so needed. She's not up for anything else today but said maybe going for a smoothie somewhere tomorrow. I'll take that:)

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Yes we have one. Adores her

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Ah yes , this one. Well I'm afraid that like many teens, especially mine , chores like dog walking are inconsistent. It's a fight. A real fight. She will do it occasionally but that's it. I pay a walker during the day

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I get it. You're not wrong. But I need to work on that stuff after the exams are over and the outcome will be what it is.

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JoeySchoolOfActing · 04/05/2025 17:14

@Chewygummy I don't think your judgemental and exasperated tone towards the OP is especially acceptable.

Maybe you have experience of this kind of situation and your approach worked for you.

I've got a similar child to the OP's and it definitely doesn't work for us. Being judged and shamed compounds the problem.

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