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Dd18 social withdrawal, don't know what else to do.

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evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 10:08

Sorry in advance for the length of this.

My DD is 18 and in final year of A levels , about to sit exams next month. She is a quiet girl and although actually really likes to socialise , has always struggled with friendships. I really thought college would be the answer to this but she hasn't really connected with anyone there either. She has struggled with the subjects she is studying , and it's been pretty rocky all round. DD from the beginning of college , has managed her time in college by skipping classes in a subject she is doing ok in, to study in a test/exam in a class she isn't doing ok in.

She is on her phone a lot and while she is studying hard now, has had huge periods of inertia and isn't where she should be with predicted grades. She has never been put under pressure academically by me , but she wants to do well and at least achieve C/B grades.

Because of the way she managed her time, attendance at college has been below average at best. At the moment it's terrible. We've argued for basically two years about her time management and suffice to say our home hasn't been a happy one. Not to put to fine a point on it, it's been bloody hideous. I'm a single parent and more often than not , her punching bag for every emotion she has. I get it , it's my job - but some days I feel on my knees absorbing it all.

She has one best friend from high school who is lovely but also quiet and shy like her and they don't socialise much in person.

Cut to today and although she is studying hard at home , she has been refusing to attend college for the last 6 weeks consistently and is now not going at all. She is anxious and experiencing overwhelm and panic symptoms when she has tried to go in. After much reluctance, she agreed to see a doctor and they prescribed beta blockers and signposted her for therapy services. I had already arranged reduced-cost private counselling a few months ago and a slot came up two weeks ago but she refused to take it. She believes her exams are the priority and she will not be able to get anything out of counselling until they're done. She isn't taking the beta blocker either. Her plan now is to stay at home and study and attend for exams only.

I've been in touch regularly with her college but they're pretty disinterested. I've let them know she is overwhelmed and anxious but they've never reached out or tried to offer anything in the way of support. They have a policy of no direct contact between teachers and parents.

I contacted the exam office and they've said they can offer her rest breaks and a quiet room on the day of her exams and that's it. I've accepted my daughter won't go back to college now until the exams start but here is my problem: she will not communicate with her teachers about work and has had huge meltdowns with me about communicating her problems to them as well. All the communication I've had with them has had to be agreed with her to the last letter as she doesn't want them to know the extent of her challenges. I asked her doctor to provide a letter for college outlining her challenges and asking for adjustments on exam days , but DD demanded the letter from me and won't let give it to them. I don't understand her reasoning but then I'm guessing that anxiety has robbed her of her logic. She seems highly fixated on their perception of her (but denies that this is the case)
I have of course spoken to them anyway but I've had to hide that from her. She won't communicate with her teachers directly and so to them, she just isn't turning up and they don't actually know she is working hard at home. They'll have had a message from pastoral to say she's got anxiety I'm sure , but she is not engaging with them on their student platform either so they've no other information from her on her current level of study , homework etc. Is there any chance they could withdraw my daughter from the exams at all? Is there something I need to put in place to ensure they don't?

As it stands, I don't even know if she will be able to attend on the days of the exams if she can't get in the building now, however any possibility of a discussion about this with DD is met with huge anger, screaming and rage. She is angry pretty much constantly. Her tolerance for any demands outside of her study is on the floor. She doesnt leave the house much at all and I'm seriously worried about her mental wellbeing. DD is a bright, funny and articulate girl but rigid and uptight in almost all aspects of her life and I have questioned ND for a number of years. If she doesn't make it into college on the day of her exams , I know it will destroy her.

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evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 17:16

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:05

This girl has a serious mental health condition op

I don’t know what to advise but please don’t pin anything on a single one of her plans

This is really hard for me to read 😔

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mumonthehill · 29/04/2025 17:17

I think back off completely and tell her you are doing so. Tell her that you are worried about her but if this is her way of getting through the exams you will go with it. Tell her that there are certain things you expect so x number of meals together, cleaner room and that you are there if she needs you. Take the pressure off but also take away the stuff she can argue with. Say that after exams she will have to look for a job or if she still finds life difficult engage with gp and counselling. You expect her to step up when exams are over but leave her to it now. Honestly you can do no more this is hers to get through.

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:18

I’m sorry
but you have time to plan for when exams over op on the basis that none of the plans are going to come to fruition

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MounjaroMounjaro · 29/04/2025 17:25

I was an A level teacher. Has she looked at past papers and model answers and mark schemes? Has she had to do any coursework? If so, did she meet deadlines?

My son didn't work hard at his A levels and did a Foundation Year with his degree and it was the best thing he could have done. The students seemed to have more care and attention than first year students and the staff were strict on deadlines and attendance. All were in the same boat - poor A level results - and they were all desperate to get onto the degree course.

What would she like to study, do you think? Will these A levels take her to the place she wants to go to anyway?

It does sound as though her anxiety is creating terrible problems for her. Does she appreciate it's anxiety or does she think it's the rest of the world that's the problem?

I really feel for you. I was a single mum and it was really hard at times. Flowers

The way I would look at this is that in five years' time, this will just be a distant memory. Keep your eyes on the middle distance!

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 17:35

Yes you're right. I'm not going to assume her plans will come to fruition. I'm glad she's feeling optimistic because then it at least means she is outward thinking and not hopeless. However I won't assume it's going to happen.
She knows I expect her to work. I am not going to allow her to rot in her bedroom. She ( thankfully!😂) says she's insulted I think she doesn't want to work or have plans for her life but I don't think that at all - I'm just sadly having to be cautious on the basis of our current situation.

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evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 17:38

She wants to go to uni but doesn't know what to do and hasn't applied. She thinks she isn't ready and I agree with her.
She loves science but also interested in humanities. A foundation degree might be the way forward but first my DD will need to learn to be a little realistic. She thinks she needs to aim higher than that and gets really angry if I try to discuss anything other than traditional routes and RG universities.

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Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:39

For a start I would have her out of her bedroom during the day and studying at dining table

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:40

And stop buying hot chocolate

just get lots of good healthy food in

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:40

You wfh? In that case, she joins you for a walk every lunch time or evening.

TheGrimSmile · 29/04/2025 17:40

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:05

This girl has a serious mental health condition op

I don’t know what to advise but please don’t pin anything on a single one of her plans

That's really harsh and not necessarily true at all.

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:41

TheGrimSmile · 29/04/2025 17:40

That's really harsh and not necessarily true at all.

Please read the op and follow up posts

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 17:42

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 17:39

For a start I would have her out of her bedroom during the day and studying at dining table

Edited

I do encourage this. She has agreed at times then it has sometimes ended in a row as when it comes to me needing to use the kitchen to cook. She argues for silence and I won't do that so ask her to go back to her room.

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evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 17:44

Yes agreed with the hot chocolate though. She gets really into individual food items in cycles and to be honest , mainly eats that thing unti she's sick of it and moves onto something else. At the moment it's hot chocolate and cheese/toast

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BallerinaFall · 29/04/2025 17:56

I really feel for your daughter; I too had a mum who could see i was struggling, thought i was autistic and yet didnt help in anyway to get me support in any way, shape or form.

As an adult now - having had a private assessment and knowing there is a reason for my "failures" is helpful; but what I needed was a parent; who taught me strategies: from how to revise, to how to tidy my room, how to see when things were too much.

The biggest thing you can do to support your child in anyway is to at least do a pre-screening with her.

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 18:08

BallerinaFall · 29/04/2025 17:56

I really feel for your daughter; I too had a mum who could see i was struggling, thought i was autistic and yet didnt help in anyway to get me support in any way, shape or form.

As an adult now - having had a private assessment and knowing there is a reason for my "failures" is helpful; but what I needed was a parent; who taught me strategies: from how to revise, to how to tidy my room, how to see when things were too much.

The biggest thing you can do to support your child in anyway is to at least do a pre-screening with her.

"I too had a mum who could see I was struggling and didn't I really feel for your daughter; I too had a mum who could see i was struggling, thought i was autistic and yet didnt help in anyway to get me support in any way, shape or form".

Respectfully, me and your mother are not the same people. It's quite easy to level this sort of claim at strangers on the internet , but it might be kinder to take a minute to read the full thread.

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BallerinaFall · 29/04/2025 18:19

I have read the full thread.

Your daughter has been struggling for a while and youre worried, you've considered ND before but didnt do anything in going towards a referal to find out, she struggles with college and youre worried that she isnt attending, she also appears to have sensory issues working in a darkish room with 1 lamp, not being able to study whilst downstairs and others are talking. She lives in a room that you don't like it habitable, she doesnt seem to have much of friendships outside of the home; and she goes through food phases.

What I was saying is - if you thought she had diabetes, or you thought she was short sighted would you leave it upto her to discover when she's an adult and not been given support during her education for these; or would you have said as a parent I want the best for her; Im worried about her mental health, her food fads, her reluctance to leave her room, her struggles with sensory issues, and possibly a neurodiversity issue.

BallerinaFall · 29/04/2025 18:20

my mum who could see i was struggling,
YOU CAN SEE SHES STRUGGLING

thought i was autistic
IT HAS CROSSED YOUR MIND

didnt help in anyway to get me support
WHAT SUPPORT HAVE YOU PROVIDED? DIAGNOSIS/REFERAL/THERAPY

Turmerictolly · 29/04/2025 18:21

I think you just need to take it one day at a time. Supporting her mental health is the most important thing right now, everything else can be worked out later when the exams have taken place. All you can do is provide meals, gently encourage her to look after herself and tell her you are there for any support she needs.

It’s good that she’s agreed to take a year out and talk about travelling. Encourage this idea so she knows there’s a positive future, even if it doesn’t come to fruition. It’s a plan and something for her to hold onto.

Turmerictolly · 29/04/2025 18:24

It’s also very difficult trying to get help for a teen who won’t engage with support at all so ignore some of the above posters. You are not being negligent, have tried to put support in help and this is tough on you too.

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 18:49

BallerinaFall · 29/04/2025 18:20

my mum who could see i was struggling,
YOU CAN SEE SHES STRUGGLING

thought i was autistic
IT HAS CROSSED YOUR MIND

didnt help in anyway to get me support
WHAT SUPPORT HAVE YOU PROVIDED? DIAGNOSIS/REFERAL/THERAPY

Ballerina do you think you might still need some help? I'm not sure you're as well as you think you are , coming into a thread and shouting at people.

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Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 18:51

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 18:08

"I too had a mum who could see I was struggling and didn't I really feel for your daughter; I too had a mum who could see i was struggling, thought i was autistic and yet didnt help in anyway to get me support in any way, shape or form".

Respectfully, me and your mother are not the same people. It's quite easy to level this sort of claim at strangers on the internet , but it might be kinder to take a minute to read the full thread.

Do you have a diagnosis now op?

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 18:52

Turmerictolly · 29/04/2025 18:21

I think you just need to take it one day at a time. Supporting her mental health is the most important thing right now, everything else can be worked out later when the exams have taken place. All you can do is provide meals, gently encourage her to look after herself and tell her you are there for any support she needs.

It’s good that she’s agreed to take a year out and talk about travelling. Encourage this idea so she knows there’s a positive future, even if it doesn’t come to fruition. It’s a plan and something for her to hold onto.

Thank you , I'm more resolved to backing off from trying to control the outcomes. Whatever will be will be. The counsellor has agreed to hold the spot for when she feels ready and I'll continue to keep offering her my support and presence for when she's also ready.

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Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 18:54

You need to be going in with a cup of tea at 8.30am
with expectation she gets up and dressed and starts studying by 10am

no more bloomin hot chocolates and crap food

good food. If she wants crap, she has to go out for a walk and get it

where do you work? In the kitchen?

and Ima solitary no eating In her room if she’s going to exist in squalor

she needs very intense parenting op so she’s going to slip more and more down

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 18:55

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 18:51

Do you have a diagnosis now op?

I was quoting Ballerina here , who compared me to her mother.

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Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 18:56

evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 18:55

I was quoting Ballerina here , who compared me to her mother.

Apologies