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Dd18 social withdrawal, don't know what else to do.

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evermineeverthine · 29/04/2025 10:08

Sorry in advance for the length of this.

My DD is 18 and in final year of A levels , about to sit exams next month. She is a quiet girl and although actually really likes to socialise , has always struggled with friendships. I really thought college would be the answer to this but she hasn't really connected with anyone there either. She has struggled with the subjects she is studying , and it's been pretty rocky all round. DD from the beginning of college , has managed her time in college by skipping classes in a subject she is doing ok in, to study in a test/exam in a class she isn't doing ok in.

She is on her phone a lot and while she is studying hard now, has had huge periods of inertia and isn't where she should be with predicted grades. She has never been put under pressure academically by me , but she wants to do well and at least achieve C/B grades.

Because of the way she managed her time, attendance at college has been below average at best. At the moment it's terrible. We've argued for basically two years about her time management and suffice to say our home hasn't been a happy one. Not to put to fine a point on it, it's been bloody hideous. I'm a single parent and more often than not , her punching bag for every emotion she has. I get it , it's my job - but some days I feel on my knees absorbing it all.

She has one best friend from high school who is lovely but also quiet and shy like her and they don't socialise much in person.

Cut to today and although she is studying hard at home , she has been refusing to attend college for the last 6 weeks consistently and is now not going at all. She is anxious and experiencing overwhelm and panic symptoms when she has tried to go in. After much reluctance, she agreed to see a doctor and they prescribed beta blockers and signposted her for therapy services. I had already arranged reduced-cost private counselling a few months ago and a slot came up two weeks ago but she refused to take it. She believes her exams are the priority and she will not be able to get anything out of counselling until they're done. She isn't taking the beta blocker either. Her plan now is to stay at home and study and attend for exams only.

I've been in touch regularly with her college but they're pretty disinterested. I've let them know she is overwhelmed and anxious but they've never reached out or tried to offer anything in the way of support. They have a policy of no direct contact between teachers and parents.

I contacted the exam office and they've said they can offer her rest breaks and a quiet room on the day of her exams and that's it. I've accepted my daughter won't go back to college now until the exams start but here is my problem: she will not communicate with her teachers about work and has had huge meltdowns with me about communicating her problems to them as well. All the communication I've had with them has had to be agreed with her to the last letter as she doesn't want them to know the extent of her challenges. I asked her doctor to provide a letter for college outlining her challenges and asking for adjustments on exam days , but DD demanded the letter from me and won't let give it to them. I don't understand her reasoning but then I'm guessing that anxiety has robbed her of her logic. She seems highly fixated on their perception of her (but denies that this is the case)
I have of course spoken to them anyway but I've had to hide that from her. She won't communicate with her teachers directly and so to them, she just isn't turning up and they don't actually know she is working hard at home. They'll have had a message from pastoral to say she's got anxiety I'm sure , but she is not engaging with them on their student platform either so they've no other information from her on her current level of study , homework etc. Is there any chance they could withdraw my daughter from the exams at all? Is there something I need to put in place to ensure they don't?

As it stands, I don't even know if she will be able to attend on the days of the exams if she can't get in the building now, however any possibility of a discussion about this with DD is met with huge anger, screaming and rage. She is angry pretty much constantly. Her tolerance for any demands outside of her study is on the floor. She doesnt leave the house much at all and I'm seriously worried about her mental wellbeing. DD is a bright, funny and articulate girl but rigid and uptight in almost all aspects of her life and I have questioned ND for a number of years. If she doesn't make it into college on the day of her exams , I know it will destroy her.

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teacher987 · 30/04/2025 12:09

Teacher here. This is increasingly common, OP. A pattern I've noticed from talking to the parents and students is way too much phone use (or gaming for many boys), staying up really late, being too tired in the morning, missing class, falling behind, being too embarrassed to attend because they don't want friends or teacher to realise how behind they are, convincing themselves they can catch up on their own so stop coming completely.

It could be something else for her, but if this seems at all familiar, I would start by turning off all WiFi, data and TV at 11pm. Basically no addictive dopamine hits after that (I would also slowly bring this time down to 9/10pm). You'll be amazed how sleep can transform mood. Also loneliness is a huge motivator to seek out company (if you can't get it from you phone). Honestly, if her phone was to break tomorrow, it would be the best thing for her imo. You'd need a printer to print out past papers and mark schemes, then get her to sit in a quiet room with no distractions (including phones) and go through these. I've tutored students who have hyper focused at this point and come away with an A.

Secondly, I get my classes to download "Keep Me Out" - it's an app that will lock your phone completely for an hour, or however long you want. You should show her this.

Thirdly, can you print out a blank weekly revision timetable to give her? I could attach one here: they are to write in exactly what they will study and when (e.g. 10-11am integration by parts - really specific!) and it has tick boxes in the bottom corner if each slot so they can tick off when they've successfully completed that slot. They should use the app to lock their phone for these slots. Make sure she takes the breaks too - knowing you HAVE TO stop in 15mins will make you much more focused.

Hope this helps. But be positive, there are many options if she fails, and sometimes students have to experience that in order to grow from it! Good luck Smile

RainyDayCoffee · 30/04/2025 12:13

@evermineeverthine I have a DD who could be your DD's twin.
And mine had a late diagnosis of ADHD and autism.
You have had great advice on this thread and I think you are a fab mum.
Advice to back off is the best in my opinion and that's exactly what I am trying to consciously follow but it's bloody hard.
Stay strong, this will pass.
Big hugs
Xx

Funnytaste · 30/04/2025 13:00

evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 09:25

Bless you for sending this. Thanks Funny ❣️

But… did you do this?

and the suggestion to turn WiFi off at 11pm

the are easy things you can do OP

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evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 13:06

Funnytaste · 30/04/2025 13:00

But… did you do this?

and the suggestion to turn WiFi off at 11pm

the are easy things you can do OP

I didn't turn the WiFi off because she was asleep at 10
I did go in with a glass of milk thir none of. (She doesn't like tea😂) And she flipped he lid😂

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evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 13:35

RainyDayCoffee · 30/04/2025 12:13

@evermineeverthine I have a DD who could be your DD's twin.
And mine had a late diagnosis of ADHD and autism.
You have had great advice on this thread and I think you are a fab mum.
Advice to back off is the best in my opinion and that's exactly what I am trying to consciously follow but it's bloody hard.
Stay strong, this will pass.
Big hugs
Xx

Thank you so much ❤️

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Funnytaste · 30/04/2025 14:40

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evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 15:08

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She wouldn't funny , because her dad pays her phone bill and she has lots of free data. Lots of it. My hands are tied. WiFi isn't a hook I can use.

Flipped her lid. - "get out / what are you playing at etc etc. Pulled her curtains shut again. That sort of thing

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evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 15:10

evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 15:08

She wouldn't funny , because her dad pays her phone bill and she has lots of free data. Lots of it. My hands are tied. WiFi isn't a hook I can use.

Flipped her lid. - "get out / what are you playing at etc etc. Pulled her curtains shut again. That sort of thing

I know it's not acceptable but it's always been like this and it's not really something I can focus on right now. She has always been challenging on that front. Hooks like pocket money and phones are pointless because I don't give it to her - her dad does. He has a background role.

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Yes she's up and dressed. She does most days to be fair. She hasn't left the house but says she was studying. I've stopped asking.

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RainyDayCoffee · 30/04/2025 15:21

I wish it did but sanctions such as taking away wifi or screen time or restricting foods they like never work on this age group.
Especially if they are autistic and likely to have PDA profile.
Data is cheap as chips so if you take away Wi-Fi they will happily be on data.
We all would like them to eat healthily and limit screen time but at this age it is very hard to control.
I want to do the same with DD but it will only backfire with consequences.
Make sure you have healthy meals in addition to the unhealthy stuff she eats.

socks1107 · 30/04/2025 15:24

My sd was very like this, drove my husband to distraction with anxiety and worry. It’s difficult
she’s missed content, she knows she’s going to struggle at the exam so she’s ignoring the issue.
I would back off, at this late stage she’s either going to pass or not and if she’s not engaged with college there’s not much you can do.
what are her plans post college? what does she really need for her next steps

evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 15:38

She's got plans to get a part time job and travel but as previous posters have pointed out , it's probably unrealistic. I do like that she's at least looking outwardly though. It gives me hope.
She doesn't respond to sanctions as you said. Except for it to more negatively affect our relationship. I just have to hope for the best.

She isn't communicating with college but is revising at home. I'm having to communicate with her teachers behind her back so that she isn't withdrawn from the exams and blows her efforts to smithereens. For reasons I do not understand , she is hysterical at the prospect of them knowing anything and her preference is to just blank them. I've been in touch with them to find out what topics she's missed and passed her the information and this cause a meltdown. I do not know what else to do to help her. She wants me to both help her but do it according to her very specific but absolutely non-sensicle rules

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evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 15:58

I don't know why those posts were deleted below?

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RainyDayCoffee · 30/04/2025 16:05

@evermineeverthineshe is revising and that is a good thing! It may not be enough but it is enough for keeping her and your sanity.
Tell yourself she will pass and you can deal with the rest as it happens. She may even do better than a pass!

My DD when she throws the towel, just lies down all day in her pyjamas and hoodie, curtains shut and stares at the ceiling. This is when it gets seriously worrying.

evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 16:45

RainyDayCoffee · 30/04/2025 16:05

@evermineeverthineshe is revising and that is a good thing! It may not be enough but it is enough for keeping her and your sanity.
Tell yourself she will pass and you can deal with the rest as it happens. She may even do better than a pass!

My DD when she throws the towel, just lies down all day in her pyjamas and hoodie, curtains shut and stares at the ceiling. This is when it gets seriously worrying.

I'm sorry to hear it's like this sometimes for you DD and thanks for sharing your insight. Thanks to everyone really. I am so grateful xx

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KatherineParr · 30/04/2025 17:04

For what it's worth OP, I would ignore the exams and revision, as I think at this point whatever will be will be. You won't make inroads into fairly longstanding problems in time to influence the results. I think an element of tough love is needed post-exam, but this is not the right time. I would focus on thinking up some practical alternatives for after exams, which you think your DD is likely to both achieve and engage with, and think about how you can best approach those with her.

hennybeans · 30/04/2025 17:17

Op, my dd has just received an ASD dx. Having just gone through the process, with all the questions fresh in my head, pretty much every single thing you’ve said about your dd says ASD.

The “good times” you mention her having as your reason for uncertainty are likely her masking. I suspect now with the stress of A levels she is in full autistic meltdown. This is just my experience with my dd.

My dd is taking GCSEs shortly and her CAHMS mental health nurse has advised us to completely back off pressuring her to revise as my dd can’t handle that pressure at the moment. I would advise you to do the same. Mentally write off her exams in your mind and focus on keeping her safe and healthy until exams are over. Use your time to read about ASD and PDA and contact your GP/ CAHMS to get the ball rolling.

Snippit · 30/04/2025 18:51

Funnytaste · 30/04/2025 08:15

Can your daughter work? @Snippit
does she live independently?

She’s currently unable to work, but that is due to other physical health conditions as well, FND, and also has a colloid cyst which is nearly the size of Davina McCalls, just watching and waiting, but will need brain surgery out eventually 🥴

Her case is so complex, actually one of her prior health conditions, endometriosis was the catalyst to her anxiety. She had a shit of a consultant for 5 years, a real piece of work, he really traumatised her, and myself, he was vile. She has been diagnosed with Complex PTSD, psychotherapy has helped with this. Had a hysterectomy at 27, so been on a bit of a roller coaster ride, still waiting to get off.

She does live independently, but pops round to ours most days. Worse thing is the help for FND isn’t available to her as we live in the wrong postcode, pretty shit! 😵‍💫

evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 19:35

Snippit · 30/04/2025 18:51

She’s currently unable to work, but that is due to other physical health conditions as well, FND, and also has a colloid cyst which is nearly the size of Davina McCalls, just watching and waiting, but will need brain surgery out eventually 🥴

Her case is so complex, actually one of her prior health conditions, endometriosis was the catalyst to her anxiety. She had a shit of a consultant for 5 years, a real piece of work, he really traumatised her, and myself, he was vile. She has been diagnosed with Complex PTSD, psychotherapy has helped with this. Had a hysterectomy at 27, so been on a bit of a roller coaster ride, still waiting to get off.

She does live independently, but pops round to ours most days. Worse thing is the help for FND isn’t available to her as we live in the wrong postcode, pretty shit! 😵‍💫

Gosh I'm so sorry to hear all this. It sounds so so stressful for both of you. Wishing you both the best and that she finds a way forward

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Snippit · 30/04/2025 19:46

evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 19:35

Gosh I'm so sorry to hear all this. It sounds so so stressful for both of you. Wishing you both the best and that she finds a way forward

Thank you so much 🌼. We just crack on, I’m currently in the bath on holiday in Malta with her, thought I’d cheer her up, she’s loving it. She’s buggered and fast asleep after taking her anti psychotic medication. Whilst ever her dad and myself can afford to we’ll make sure she has a good a life as possible 🤗

evermineeverthine · 30/04/2025 20:41

Snippit · 30/04/2025 19:46

Thank you so much 🌼. We just crack on, I’m currently in the bath on holiday in Malta with her, thought I’d cheer her up, she’s loving it. She’s buggered and fast asleep after taking her anti psychotic medication. Whilst ever her dad and myself can afford to we’ll make sure she has a good a life as possible 🤗

I love this. You sound wonderful parents❤️

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RainyDayCoffee · 30/04/2025 21:27

@Snippit
You have inspired me!
I wish DH and I could have that mindset instead of being grumpy about our situation all the time.
You sound wonderful.

Nevermindthebuzzard · 30/04/2025 23:02

Every single thing you've said about her screams ND. you've done her a huge disservice by simply joking about it for years and never doing anything to get her assessed.