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How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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BabuFrick · 18/04/2025 16:15

As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

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Lovelyview · 18/04/2025 17:32

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:27

And people have been assaulted by women before too so giving individual cases is unhelpful and inflammatory.

Come on. 99% of those convicted of sexual assault are male and 98% of those subject to rape are female. It's incredibly clear cut that men - including those with a trans identity - are much more dangerous to women than other women are.

User46576 · 18/04/2025 17:32

Only minimally directly affected- several trans identified men came to a community group I am part of and used the women’s toilets, etc. it stopped me feeling safe there and I have to accompany my daughters to the bathroom.

but I don’t have to be directly affected to care about other women who have been affected. What happened to the two little girls sexually assaulted by “Katie” Dolotowski was horrific. We don’t need to experience it personally to oppose it.

of course not all trans people are necessarily violent or sex offenders. But the presence of men (trans if or not) in womens spaces violates our right to privacy and dignity.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/04/2025 17:33

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:20

No for showing utter prejudice. The thing that's utterly destroying the UK isn't a tiny percentage of trans people - it's prejudice.

Example? All I’m seeing is threats, compelled speech and thoughts. No debate. No examples. And it’s not from the side that believes in biological/sex reality.

All that’s happened is that sex class, which has been a victim of the patriarchy and fought for years and years for their rights has had this sex class recognised in law and the TWAW shouters (which they are not, it’s perfectly fine to be a trans woman) are behaving like they’ve called for trans genocide.

I feel so sorry for the trans people whom recognise that no, they aren’t men/women but have chosen to present themselves in a way that’s authentic to them without discrimination (still protected in law) and these activists are making life harder for them.

ziggazigboom · 18/04/2025 17:33

ziggazigboom · 18/04/2025 17:31

Would you say the same to the Darlington nurses? Or the nurse in Scotland suspended because she refused to change in the same room as Dr Beth, an intact male?
What about the patient that was raped by a teams women on a ward where apparently there were no males?
Or to the youth football team in Yorkshire who got banned from their league because they refused to have a trans girl (a boy) on their team?

I have not personally experienced any of the issues above, they happened to other women. But they did happen, to my fellow women, because “be kind” TWAW.

I absolutely applaud the court’s ruling. If a man chooses to wear dresses and makeup and do whatever they think makes them a trans woman then that is fine. They can live how they chose. But they do not have the right to spaces that are there for biological women.

My post was in response to someone who said the ruling is pure bigotry

Aragonite · 18/04/2025 17:33

No impact whatsoever.
However, I can't believe how far this went and how much cost to individuals and financially to declare the bloody obvious.
Saying that I wish no ill will to any transgender person. Live and let live.

FortyElephants · 18/04/2025 17:33

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:20

No for showing utter prejudice. The thing that's utterly destroying the UK isn't a tiny percentage of trans people - it's prejudice.

When an aversion to sharing spaces with a group of people is based on well evidenced risk, it's not prejudice, it's common sense. Are we prejudiced if we don't let sex offenders work in schools? Are we prejudiced if we don't let men share dorms with girls on guide camps? Not wanting to share toilets with men isn't borne of prejudice.

Lolapusht · 18/04/2025 17:33

Kardamyli2 · 18/04/2025 16:54

I think it's a different person. He's been at my workplace for a few years and decided about 18 months ago that he's a woman. Dresses like a LA hooker most days too Hmm

It’s always either hooker or librarian…

GardenGaff · 18/04/2025 17:34

Yes, I’ve been bumped down in my finishing position at my local park run by a man racing as a woman.

And a women only Campervan group I’m part of now has men turning up to meet ups.

fieldsofflowers · 18/04/2025 17:34

only in incredibly positive ways. some of my best friends are trans, they’re brilliant people but that doesn’t hinge on them being trans or not. it’s absolutely horrific to see this country turn on them like this

BangersAndGnash · 18/04/2025 17:34

Yes, I was hounded out of my job.

By ‘trans allies’ and TRAs.

For pushing through service delivery in line with user consultation and demand, and the law.

In discussion it became clear that whilst I have no anti feelings against anyone for being Trans and was also protecting the rights of Trans users, I am of the opinion that sex is sex and gender is gender and they can be different. And that sex, unlike gender, is binary and immutable.

A campaign of open and stealth malice, abused online, trumped up grievances to the Board, blah blah.

I also have a very vulnerable family member who is trans and causes no bother to anyone.

The terms of yesterday’s ruling apply to specific circumstances when the Equality Act is applicable to women as a sex. Which seems fair enough. Let’s support the trans people in our lives to live without fear and where the Equality Act continues to protect them.

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:34

Kardamyli2 · 18/04/2025 17:31

can't work out if you're being disingenuous or you yourself are a transwoman.

Neither. Are you really so incapable of believing someone has a different opinion and viewpoint to you?

FortyElephants · 18/04/2025 17:35

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:25

There's barely a day where transphobic posts don't get posted on Mumsnet. If you fail to see the prejudice in the vast majority of those posts then there's no words that will help you to understand it.

You're right - belief that men can be women is an article of faith. We who don't share your religion will never be persuaded that you're correct and we aren't.

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:35

Lovelyview · 18/04/2025 17:32

Come on. 99% of those convicted of sexual assault are male and 98% of those subject to rape are female. It's incredibly clear cut that men - including those with a trans identity - are much more dangerous to women than other women are.

And what percentage were trans women assaulting women?

BatteryHuman50 · 18/04/2025 17:36

Medical research has traditionally assumed men to be the norm (for multiple reasons including because more men have been included in clinical trials). Just as we started to talk about this, the quality of data collection on sex has become almost meaningless because it is very difficult to know if people are reporting their sex or their gender.

So all women continue to be indirectly discriminated against by the lack of quality medical research into impact of sex on medical treatments.

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 18/04/2025 17:36

batterypower · 18/04/2025 16:30

I can tell you I have only ever been sexually harassed/assaulted by men. Never trans women.

not a popular opinion on here but I’m devastated for the trans community, it’s a step backwards for them and all the women who have been shouting about them.

Trans women are men.

SleepyDormouse59 · 18/04/2025 17:36

Tiredalwaystired · 18/04/2025 17:01

i only wish my transman friend with a full beard will be welcomed into the ladies without an equivalent campaign. I someone how doubt his life will be so straightforward any more.

You can always tell a trans identified female, bearded or not. But most of us do them the courtesy of going along with their gender identity, as they are not a threat.

Globules · 18/04/2025 17:36

I'd say it's affected me.

It's consumed my MN timeline.
It takes up my news space.
I've had to repeatedly get my head around the ongoing changing guidance for schools and ensure it's enacted.
I've had a friend buy me a drink from the profits of his latest book on transgender.
I've had one of my daughters good friends ghost her because she used the wrong pronoun.
I've had to tolerate mixed sex toilets.
I've got very very very cross about how county council paperwork now asks what gender 3 year olds identify with and what pronouns they prefer used.
I've had 4 friends deal with their child deciding they're trans... Talked things out with them... Only for the child to decide 1-6 months later they weren't trans.

So whilst I haven't had any direct trans acquaintances, the subject sure has taken up a lot of my headspace.

SantasLargerHelper · 18/04/2025 17:36

There are certain bars in Manchester city centre that our group of friends stopped going to because the ladies toilets always had very tall, loud and intimidating men in drag using them. Whether they were trans or drag queens not sure but we decided to drink elsewhere.

Tiredalwaystired · 18/04/2025 17:36

Kardamyli2 · 18/04/2025 17:18

Children are gullible and often believe completely made up things. I can spot a transwoman without even seeing his face and can even more easily spot a transman. I think nearly all biological women have this ability.

my children are late teens.

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:37

FortyElephants · 18/04/2025 17:35

You're right - belief that men can be women is an article of faith. We who don't share your religion will never be persuaded that you're correct and we aren't.

The fact that you see it as a religion says it all really.

FlippyKiYayFlippyFlipper · 18/04/2025 17:37

fieldsofflowers · 18/04/2025 17:34

only in incredibly positive ways. some of my best friends are trans, they’re brilliant people but that doesn’t hinge on them being trans or not. it’s absolutely horrific to see this country turn on them like this

For goodness sake. Do you understand anything about the court ruling??
No one has turned on them. The law has been clarified. They should only ever have been in spaces reserved for their biological sex.

PatsFruitCake · 18/04/2025 17:37

fieldsofflowers · 18/04/2025 17:34

only in incredibly positive ways. some of my best friends are trans, they’re brilliant people but that doesn’t hinge on them being trans or not. it’s absolutely horrific to see this country turn on them like this

Nobody is turning on anyone. Existing laws (that have been in place for years) have been clarified so there is less confusion and fewer court cases.

Transgender people are still protected by the Equality Act, and all the other laws we have, just as they were last week

FlippyKiYayFlippyFlipper · 18/04/2025 17:37

Tiredalwaystired · 18/04/2025 17:36

my children are late teens.

Of all the things that didn’t happen. . .

Lovelyview · 18/04/2025 17:38

Lounderflounder · 18/04/2025 17:35

And what percentage were trans women assaulting women?

Men who identify as women have the same rate of violent and sexual offending as other men.

HangTheDJHangTheDJHangTheDJ · 18/04/2025 17:38

I haven't been affected at all