How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

Daughter says she's trans. On hormones. Had to agree because suicidal ideation and her father pushing. Every day is tinged with despair.

So sorry to hear this.

Well I have.

If someone said to you “I’ve never been sexually assaulted by a man so I’m devastated people talk badly about them” how would you feel?

Just because YOU are lucky enough never to have had this experience, doesn’t mean everyone is.

But I’m not frightened of all transwomen because I was assulted by a transwomen. I’m ‘frightened’ of transwomen because I was assulted by a man. Which is what transwomen are.

so am I anti trans? Or anti men? Because according to you, it’s men who are the issue - not transwomen. But I was assaulted by a transwoman. So who or what was I assaulted by, in your book, if not a man? And why, when someone from the ‘trans community’ assaults your fellow (actual) woman, do you think the trans community isn’t a threat to women, but when a man assaults a woman, you think the ‘man community’ is a threat to women? What exempts transwomen from being tarred with the same brush as their fellow trans women, yet an innocent man is tarred with the same brush as their fellow men?

edited to add, seriously can’t believe someone with an ounce of logic would be devastated by someone saying a woman is a woman! A woman is a female bodied person - well yes! If the definition isn’t the definition, what are transwomen bloody trying to be? The aspiration is to BE a woman even though they’re not… how can you be something that doesn’t even exist because you’re already a woman because to be a woman you can have a male body? It’s fucking ridiculous.

I have, negatively.

When I was 16 (so almost 20 years ago), I had a part-time job at ASDA. Someone worked there who was a biological male dressed as a woman with a woman’s name, but who was still married and trying for another baby with his wife.

This individual wanted to use the women’s toilets/changing rooms. Bosses spoke to all staff individually. All of the women who worked there full-time said no, absolutely not, they would feel very uncomfortable. They were extremely distressed at the situation.

I can remember as a naive teenager purely going on practicalities saying that given I only worked there 16 hours a week on the busiest weekend shifts, and given that I never changed at work, it was unlikely to affect me much, but I understood why full-time staff were so upset.

Anyway, the bosses refused this request and the individual could either continue using the men’s or disabled toilet.

Fast forward to our Christmas work party, and a colleague overheard the individual making very sexual comments about myself and my friend/colleague (also 16) dancing. I was horrified, both because I had always been accepting, friendly and chatted to the individual at work, and also because we were a lot younger/had boyfriends.

After that, I was hugely relieved that I did not have to share a changing room/toilet with this colleague, and thought our bosses did a great job refusing the request. I definitely would not have felt safe if I was on my own with him after the work party.

Sex is real, sex matters, women’s safety matters, women’s privacy and dignity matters. I can’t believe this ambiguity has persisted for so long. The courts have got this one right (although it always should have been a given!)

Thank goodness this can now be legally stopped. How awful that you all had to leave- they need to now be asked to leave.

I’m sorry to hear of your despair. Please if this is too personal a question feel free to ignore, but would you say your child has been influenced by peers? It’s one I really worry about for when my own reach secondary age, that this has all become a fashionable, contagious trend?

I recently had a disturbing debate as a school governor at a primary school. I made it very clear I was horrified by cases of some children at secondary schools being socially transitioned without informing parents (I would instantly remove my children, this to me is a complete abuse of trust and overriding of parental legal authority). Anyway, another governor who is a secondary school teacher in a private school completely pooh poohed what I was saying, said that teenagers were constantly doing this and they didn’t always inform parents as they didn’t take it seriously. She then basically told me I would need to be less controlling in the future! I was highly offended, and strongly challenged her.

So after that awful meeting, I remain very concerned about what is going on with both teenagers and their teachers (which is very worrying).

Thank you, I appreciate that reassurance. It did scare me :)

A family friend has an autistic mtf trans child in their twenties and it is very clearly an anime sexual fetish to the point that his sister won't have him near her kids

This is a good point - for some transwomen it is a fetish, as evidenced by the man mentioned upthread who was asking the poster if she had her period.

Personally, I don’t want want trans identifying men with a fetish around either myself or my daughters. I don’t like the idea that female spaces and women and girls are props for that fetish.

I expect some women to reply that they don’t care, it’s not harming them, kinks/fetishes are great and no one should be shamed.

However, there was an interesting court case not that long ago in Australia, I think, where separated parents were disagreeing over access. The mother wanted the father not to have contact with the two young children. The father had an adult nappy fetish. He would come to pick up his children and the nappy would deliberately show above his pants, because he liked to wear nappies in public and he liked them to be visible. The mother thought this was inappropriate, the father said that it wasn’t harming his children because they weren’t aware of it.

I'm not saying all men transition for sexual reasons, but, personally, I think it’s gross that some trans-identifying men do get a thrill from it and I’d rather not have them around women’s spaces.

A school acquaintance asked a question and lost her quite prominent, female centric job.

Not in the UK. My birth certificate is now as truthful as an arsewipe. I’m beside myself with anger. Was face to face with my Premier the other day at the airport and had to battle not marching up to his face and bursting into tears. Teen dd would not have thanked me for that.

Blimey. I’m abroad and not in a UK time zone. Excuse me for going to bed after my last post 😳

Hear hear!

Why the apostrophe?

Responding to the bit about the 'list'. Any kind of behaviour like that from anyone within the trans community would be immediately shut down

But clearly it hasn't @glittercunt - or else the person telling @FeministUnderTheCatriarchy was just mentally ill. Either way, not a good version of "But we just want to pee."

DD (age 11), quit her sport, which she was excellent at, as there were some boys joined the girls division and started sweeping the floor with them.

DD is small for her age anyway, but competing with boys up to the age of 14, who all tower over her and the other girls, in a combat style sport, was just slaughter and no fun for them.

The club is struggling for numbers of girls since it was allowed, parents have voted with their feet. We are trying to find another club for her, but luckily she’s off to an all girls school in September who have a team for that sport.

I used to be active on twitter, with other GC women. I never insulted anyone, but was very clear that (for eg) in medical situations it was harmful to ignore sex, harmful to change all women’s cancer information to “people with a cervix” where men’s cancer pages were explicitly clear who the information was aimed at. I was always pro women, not anti trans, but soon learnt that being anything other than 100% capitulating to their demands is transphobic.
I was also clear that given the stats of children transitioning - 98% autistic/neglected/in care/looked after/mentally ill was a really unhealthy demographic to validate and encourage down a hormone and irreversible surgery route. Really worryingly wrong to allow these vulnerable girls to be told they can literally change their sex without any investigation as to why so many were feeling like this, so disconnected from their sexual that transitioning felt the right thing to do.

I regularly received threats from TW and TRAs, accusing me of wanting them dead, so I deserved to die in a whole manner of painful ways. I was sent three dick pics from TW pointing out they were going to rape me to teach me a lesson. Police weren’t interested.

In rl I have a very good friend who used to run women only retreats, her business was all
but destroyed by TW who took offence at her because of that, despite her opening up “women only” weekends that would include them. She has two friends who did similar with canal boat weekends, who were closed down.

I cannot find any local lesbian meet ups or dating sites at all that don’t include (and centre) men.

I do not understand any women who would happily hand women’s rights over to a group of men. It really is turkeys voting for Christmas, yet they seem blind to it.

That’s not true. Lists of this sort are quite common, especially on cesspits like X.

The incel like vibes that the poster described is true.

@OutandAboutMum1821 A colleague of mine had a similar situation. The school contacted her to discuss a situation and started the phonecalls by saying ‘ Are you the mother of John Smith’. She replied I think you have the wrong family. They emphasised they need to speak to her. One look at her daughter said it all.

For the last year, her daughter was known as John rather than Janet at school and the mum had no idea. How is a parent supposed to advocate, safeguard and support her child if she’s not informed of this?!

Don’t apologise, you are allowed to post whatever you like wherever you like as long as it follows the MN guidelines

just because someone doesn’t like some of the answers you have been given doesn’t mean you aren’t entitled to ask the question

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Apologies hangthedj I have just seen that you also said not to apologise to the OP!

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Yep, I'm on several of those lists of Nasty Terfs. X and Reddit are dodgy places to be if you're GC - I remain as anonymous as possible on those platforms...

@OutandAboutMum1821 no, actually I think ours was the first in her peer group. Certainly the first for the school. I'm convinced it was the Internet and (as yet undiagnosed, but it's highly likely given family incidence and behaviours) autism.

You are presenting a woman’s fear of a man as irrational, when we all know men ARE a threat to women and there are perfectly valid reasons why women do not want to share spaces where they are vulnerable with potential predators (eg changing rooms, toilets, hospital wards or prisons).

There have been many of these lists over the years. Pp is naive. Also are people familiar with “Shinigami Eyes”? https://x.com/womenopausal1/status/1913250211792663029

I will say that this is precisely my point. Men have practically been invited into the women's toilets now.

men were literally invited in before

the transman i know uses the gents and will continue to do so

My daughter works in a big department store and is a bra fitter.
multiple times a week a trans woman who appears to have MH issues (is unkempt, smells of bo/urine) comes in an asks for staff to measure her fake boobs for a bra.
Staff are intimidated by her and work in twos.
she is banned from some of the other shops.
a male friend is a support worker in a mental health hospital and has to support a middle aged trans woman with a sexual offending history.
she is not allowed to be alone with women as she is a risk to them.
male friend has to take her into the community and try and manage stuff like her repeatedly bending over in a dress with no underwear on usually in front of women and children.
i do know harmless trans people but of course no horrible stories about them.
and that of course is the issue, its not all trans women but it’s definitely some of them.