How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

[BabuFrick]

As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

@Tuttifrutticutiepie I was so pleased to see Johannes was in that musical as he's so happy to be a gay man and any of the joking around clothing/pronouns/being a laydee will be all seen in the spirit in which is was originally intended i.e. adult cabaret mainly with gay men, no literal sex changes.

Yes. I have felt unsafe and uncomfortable changing in the women’s changing room at the gym now that I can no longer be certain it’s women only so I have not changed without awkwardly hanging a towel round me, checking for people around me and trying to avoid the changing rooms and going home sweaty on other occasions.

So because some women can be assaulted by other women in prisons, we should just chuck a few men in there as well, because hey, what’s one more assault?

and yes, further up the thread there was someone who works for a leisure centre who said that yes, Muslim women HAVE stopped attending because transwomen were now allowed. 80% less, I think. So just because it hasn’t affected you or you haven’t noticed it, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

Every single woman has been affected by the trans ideology. Women have had their voices removed to facilitate the wishes of men. We have been shown it’s perfectly acceptable to stand and hold a placard threatening violence and rape if a woman wants dignity and safety. It has shown is our hard fought for rights can be threatened at any time. We have had jobs taken from us, we have been raped, when those things happen to one person because she’s a woman, they happen to us all because it could have been us.

No. Know one transwoman. Doesn’t affect my life at all.

What concerns me is that people are now expecting trans men to be in the women's toilets. What's to now stop a man from coming in and just saying he was female at birth?

The fact that he is clearly a man?

Yes, I suppose it was physical but I have had a tendency to down play it and it wasn't physical as in directly physical to me. She didn't hit me. She was slamming cubicle doors , basing the hand dryer etc...

And completely unrelated to whether she was male or female perhaps. But I didn't feel I could raise it with anyone higher up, despite it not being appropriate work place behaviour. I also tried to make excuses for it even though it made me uncomfortable. This must have been about 2012/2013. Transgender issues weren't much on my radar as I was not transgender nor did I know anyone who was beyond this person, but I imagine it wasn't exactly a friendly era for the transgender community. I think this made me excuse the behaviour in a way.

In my day to day life no.
But I do worry about young vulnerable people, my grandkids are early secondary age.

@Appledrop

"Imagine the rise in that statistic if things carried on the way it was"

Meaning what? You mean if the number of transgender women massively increases? What makes you think that's going to happen? All the evidence on the increase in reported cases gender dysphoria in adolescence point to most young people desisting in a fairly short space of time, except in the rare cases of prolonged gender dysphoria that go back a long way into early childhood.

You seem to think this ruling means that you know longer have to worry about the minuscule likelihood of predatory transgender women assaulting women in women's facilities. Like the laws against rape and assault have stopped cis-gender men from assaulting women basically anywhere and everywhere, including in their own homes. Not.

Oh, here we go again. This supposed to be another 'gotcha' moment?

Your grandchildren are more likely to be horribly bullying kids at school with gender dysphoria than to be attacked by a transgender kid, or persuaded to seek gender affirming care by trans activists.

As for 'I.e. she looked at me funny'. She looked at me aggressively. She slammed multiple toilet cubicles. It was very peculiar behaviour as there was no need. It's what made it so aggressive. It would have been aggressive whether she was trans or not.

i'm not saying I've never had bad experiences with people who aren't trans but this thread was about how trans people had impacted lives so I've answered on that.

If trans women are women, then all men are women. Would you mind if all men entered our female-only spaces? Would you stick up for them as much as you are for so called transwomen, not sure why they are even called that because they are men. Feminine men at best.

How are you supposed to tell that when trans men can also be tall, broad, and bearded?

No. I actually don't understand how we're supposed to tell the difference when you want people with beards using the women's toilets.

TM still look like women, especially when they move

@Strawberryorangejuice

Sounds legit. 🤔

If any of my colleagues - regardless of gender - were behaving like this I'd be having a word with my manager or with HR, because what you describe sounds like the behaviour of someone who's mentally unwell.

Trans men aren’t generally a threat to women?

I mean what's the point in engaging with a thread if people just say 'sounds legit'.

Do you have an opinion of the world where only non trans people can be arseholes? 🙄 Or perhaps can you consider that maybe trans people can be too.

Trans women with beards have also been using women's facilities, so why is there only concern for trans men? Trans men are women. I'd rather transmen in our personal spaces than men dressed up as women, wouldn't you?

Do they?

Do you work with a lot of transgender men?

Do you know any cis gender person who's ever been misgendered? Because you genuinely believe this never happens, whereas I know it does. I had an aunt who looked like Charles Bronson. Gravelly smoker's voice. Big face and head. Constantly misgendered. With zero access to testosterone treatment. My daughter's friend at primary school was misgendered all the time. 10 year old girl with long hair who everyone assumed was a boy. It wasn't just her features, it was her body language, the way she moved. Had another friend at school in the 1980's. She was a very out lesbian of 15 who we referred to using a boy's name, because she presented as a boy and looked like a boy.

I also know a couple of non-binary kids who you would really struggle to work out their gender.

It happens. I know TERFS say 'you can always tell' but they're wrong.

"Trans women with beards have also been using women's facilities"

Have they?

Where?

I had a trans woman friend, now sadly passed away, who was one of the funniest, most compassionate people I have known. I also had a trans lecturer at university whose astounding academic ability was far more interesting than their transition.
There is also clearly mentally ill man in a wig and dress who hangs around my local shopping centre and harasses women. There is another trans woman at my yoga centre who wears imo deliberately revealing clothes to class and stares aggressively. I didn't go to a 'women's' yoga retreat because you'd be sharing a bedroom with a stranger and they couldn't legally say whether or not it would be with an actual woman. I have been shoved out of the way by a trans woman in a toilet queue. For the ladies. Another toilet in a train station had a teenage trans identified male with two blue-headed handmaidens and I felt his undercurrent of aggression like it was palpable. I was scared in that loo. A family friend has an autistic mtf trans child in their twenties and it is very clearly an anime sexual fetish to the point that his sister won't have him near her kids.
I am a gay woman in my early 40s and have had gorgeous masc-of-centre woman partners who were 'tomboys' when young and tell me they might well have been transed, mutilated and medicated had this cult had been in situ 20 odd years ago. Like is happening to young lesbians now.
When I was on lesbian dating apps, they were riddled with males, and you're told you're a bigot for not being into them.
I feel very sorry for genuine gender dysphoria, but we simply need common-sense protections from all males given their propensity to deviance. Biology isn't hate speech.

I have encountered several during my career, of whom 2 mtf and 1 ftm were perfectly nice people that I got on with and was happy to have as colleagues, and 2 mtf who were very unprofessional and difficult individuals to deal with.