How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

[BabuFrick]

As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

I briefly worked with a transwoman, and in an educational setting when a child was unwell and needed to be taken to the toilet, he actually got very angry and threatening to the member of staff who told him no, actually he couldn’t take the child, it would have to be a woman who did so. What woman would get angry about someone else helping an upset child?? He wanted to use this girl to affirm his ‘womanhood’. Fuck that. And fuck him.

I’m so so sorry. My son was also groomed online by the horrifically toxic trans/rainbow/glitter ‘community’. It’s absolutely terrifying. They are predators

Who says a gender non conforming isn’t welcome in the gent’s ? There used to be a bloke on twitter years ago, he wasn’t a big man, he dressed in a lot of pink with mini skirts and fishnets. And would post pics of all the men’s loos that he wasn’t harnessed in, to show that actually men are fine going into men’s loos, however they present.

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But what about the women and girls that it does affect when transwomen are preventing them from playing sports?
Or taking money from those women?

And your point is?

I forgot my online interaction with a lovely TW. He was posting with pictures of his gun with some comment about “blowing up some bitches” or something. I pointed out his gun was a replica so he threatened to shove his fist up my vagina and through my throat. Having said that I’ve been raped, stalked and assaulted by the more common variety men too.

No idea, that’s not information I have or even a point I was making.

The point I was making was that IMO, women will move forward from here to not wanting trans men who were born female in their spaces because if they present as male and/or have a penis (appendage, if we’re being choosy) then they’re not welcome either, as it’s still unsafe.

There will, I assume, be those who don’t want beards and penises in their bathrooms at all. Unless we’re going to install some sort of chromosome scanner in toilets, those people will be triggering to some and simply get suspicion from others.

Well - that rules out trans males too. I’m not sure where all of these people are going to pee, in the long run.

My child has been brainwashed by trans ideology and is now taking dangerous medication that makes me feel frightened for their future.

I'm so glad about the High Court decision because men cannot be women, and to say that is to promote a terribly damaging lie.

Both of the meet ups I went to it was men identifying as women.

The first time it was a man is in his mid 50’s with thinning long hair who turned up to a campsite in the middlen of nowhere in Snowdonia in full makeup, a floaty strappy dress and wedge sandals while the rest of us were hair scraped back, no makeup, in waking trousers and hiking shoes/boots. We ended up shortening the planned walk because he wasn’t dressed appropriately for the walk or the weather.

The second time a woman brought along her 19/20 ish year old son who identified as a woman. I felt sorry for the kid tbh. His being trans was literally the only thing his mother could talk about and she did her absolute utmost to ensure that the whole weekend was all about him, no matter what the topic of conversation she turned it around to his struggles, her struggles, how she knew from when he was 3 years old that he was trans, how they were ostracised, his mental health, his medical issues, etc etc. The second night of camping a little ‘breakaway’ group formed outside someone’s campervan and away from where everyone was sitting around the fire, and slowly but surely everyone started drifting over until she and her son were left with one or two women too polite to escape.

Both used the female facilities at the campsites we stayed at - although the kid didn’t go in them without his mum.

It strikes me as fairly ironic that the women who defend the rights of TW to use female spaces, citing safety quite often, are also those vociferously calling out male violence and 'toxic masculinity'. You might think they would be in favour of men expanding the bandwidth of maleness and welcoming non-conforming men into their spaces, and encouraging men to defend them against any aggro or hostility. Why were only women told to 'be kind'? Why can't men fucking 'be kind'?

In a work capacity I have met young people who identify as trans or non binary. I have had some concerns at times that the issues and problems they face are not related to gender. They are usually lovely young people and I have nothing but respect and sympathy for them.
I went to a small event as a volunteer last year. There was a small but very vocal proportion of the volunteers and employees there that wished to completely dominate the whole group. By talking at length about pronouns , gender identity etc. One individual changed their pronouns during the week we were there. It seemed like a power issue to me - look at me, use my correct ( daily ) pronouns or I will complain about you. I found it oppressive and disturbing and wouldn't go anywhere near that organisation again.

Yes.

I know 4 trans people (all males identifying as women).

Person 1 - husband (‘wife’) of an ex-acquitance. I say ex as since getting together with him, she no longer sees her friends, as he is incredibly controlling and won’t let her spend time with anyone without him. It started with ‘why aren’t I invited to your girls night? After all I am a girl now?’ and wound up in a place where he completely controls her via his ‘gender dysphoria issues’. For example he won’t let any friends round their flat now as not only do they not count him as ‘one of the girls’ for the sake of meet ups, it’s triggering for him to see her socialising with other real women apparently. Haven’t heard anything about her in a couple of years, I know her parents are worried sick though.

Person 2 - A boy I grew up with, was always very clearly autistic (what used to be known as Asperger’s). A really unpleasant personality, a bit ‘we need to talk about Kevin’. He’s my relative’s godson and now sashays around in revealing clothes and lots of make up, enjoying inflicting his ‘rights’ upon women’s spaces and online crusading

Person 3 - a colleague who isn’t technically ‘trans’ but has a female alter ego and sometimes turns up to work in fetish gear, uses the ladies loo on that day etc. Stares at women’s breasts/bottoms, makes sexual remarks to them, and gets off on their discomfort. Unbelievably he’s married to a woman and they actually have a conventional life with children (who are probably now in their 20s/30s, he’s in his 60s). Talks a lot about awful transphobes in the office

Person 4 - Another colleague who is head of diversity. Travels about lecturing us on gender issues and how to make life better for trans people. Ok to chat to, and no sexual remarks etc, but absolutely lacking in any self awareness insofar as his female colleagues are literally being lectured by him on what being a woman is like. It’s unreal

So - sorry to say no good experiences from me.

Nearly lost my job due to having a grievance against myself and another colleague from a trans person for mis gendering them. The guy is built like a brick shit house and has zero feminine qualities, luckily for us the people handling the grievance agreed and said there was no way we could have known but we had to do extra training on being mindful and to teach us not to jump to conclusions.

It will, but IMO the proportion of men prancing about on the wings in mini skirts, make up and bad wigs needs to be managed differently. The numbers reported by MOJ / HMPPS are disingenuous.

Plenty of Miss Xs (insert pornographic name here) are on the wings and being referred to as she when it's a male prisoner - almost exclusively sex offenders - to enable them in getting off on this in a way they never did until they arrived in prison.

Their records still reflect their biological sex but they are being pandered to by everyone around them, especially governors who IME have no backbone on this matter. Because the records aren't changed they won't be counted in the stats even though they are written up as Miss X on every report / entry.

That male prisoners also have to pander to the delusion or face adjudications for refusing to play along with the farce is absolutely disgraceful tbh. Let alone the staff.

Yes. My kids at secondary school tell me about the trans identifying kids at their school because it affects them. They notice the special treatment they receive, the eggshells the teachers walk on when interacting with them.
My child also pointed out that wearing religious symbolic jewellery is not allowed so why are the trans kids wearing pronoun and progress flag badges on their blazers? He has a very good point.

That’s awful. Fuck him indeed.

Not sure if it counts as he transitioned after but I worked with a biological male that used to tell me (among other things) that he would strangle me in the woods on my way to work. I didn’t learn to drive until I was in my late 20s and he was aware I had to walk through a wood to get to work, he has now transitioned to female and the thought of him in female spaces makes my shudder.

Young trans relative and their partner. Both should have been happy, healthy, same-sex attracted people. Both are unhealthy with the partner unable to work full time. My young relative is now suffering adverse health and it's only going to get worse.

I am furious about the people who groomed kids into believing their lives would be made better by "transitioning". I hope one day those responsible for enabling this will be held to account.

Some of my relationships have suffered because I dont support transition. I wouldnt support a child who was putting their hand in a fire, I wont support anyone who has any involvement in or has ever supporting transitioning children.

And I've been present at a meeting where TRAs wanted to shout down anyone who wanted to talk about the damage they do. No actual violence as there were not many of them and the police did their job for once. They are bigots who dont wish anyone to hear the truth.

And in any case, that's not what you asked is it? You asked for the stats on transwomen and sex offending. Now you've got them, and it shows transwomen commit sex offences at a higher rate than the rest of the male prison population, suddenly it's not relevant.

Out of interest, if those stats aren't high enough for you, what collateral damage of sex offences against women and girls would you accept as being too much before they were allowed safeguarding?

As an aside from the actual matter at hand, one solution to the toilet problem is to have floor to ceiling cubicles with a sink inside. Sounds good, right? But I read (not sure if here or on twitter) that these are actually pretty dangerous because when people feel ill in public, the first place they go is the toilet. If they have a heart attack, stroke, faint etc, the likelihood of being found is much, much lower than a normal cubicle where they could be seen through the gap under the door. So this might even lead to more deaths, inadvertently.

It absolutely counts. We are supposed to pretend these men have always been women from the second they pronounce that they are. Sorry you experienced that.

Come on now, that dog ain't gonna walk itself....

Yes, it may have been here. @keeptoiletssafe

Not a single response to my earlier post about trans widows and our children.

@TinselAngel

They’re not actually interested in learning why so many women feel as we do or what experiences we have had of these men. It’s all virtue signalling and posturing.