How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

I don’t think it’s trans people themselves that are the issue.

its the “womanface” issue that a pp alluded to.

its not biologically possible and pretending it is is just nonsense. Ditto allowing them to compete in sport.

If a man wants to live as a woman that’s fine and not really anybody else’s business. But he is a trans woman and still biologically male. He doesn’t become a “woman” and biological women become “cis women”.

I have known and do know transwomen. None of them have caused me any issue.

What I do have an issue with are the ardent supporters spouting “transwomen are biologically women. FACT.”

It’s just nonsensical garbage.

This is the type of scenario which has upset and outraged me for years. Disabled women and girls being forced to accept intimate personal care from a man who "identifies as a woman".

The thought of a vulnerable woman trusting female care workers to attend her home to toilet and wash her, knowing that care companies could be hiring men because "they identify as women".

Women in hospitals, completely incapacitated and vulnerable, being gaslit by HCPs who think biological sex is less important than "feelings".

We're redrawing that line and reminding everyone - women and men are defined by their biological sex and not by "how they feel inside".

How have I been affected personally? Not in the slightest.

I do, however, know a number of people in my wider circle who (due to their religious beliefs and customs) would have severe issues regarding the female members of their community having to use public toilets or changing rooms alongside people who are not bioligically female. Therefore I feel it only right that these spaces should be accessible for them due to their own protected characteristics of both religion and sex.

One of my friends has a close friend who is trans and they come out with us sometimes, I enjoy their company. I had a student who was trans and they got beaten up by the people in the next door flat, they were badly injured and it was a horrible time for them. I had a service user who was trans and they had a hard time from some people in their local community but were popular with people who actually knew them as a person.

I've known four trans people. I worked with a trans woman 20 odd years ago, didn't have a lot to do with her. She very obviously looked like a man though, walked like a man, deep voice big hands. My friends sister is a trans man, he looks very good to be honest, quite buff and good looking. The delivery driver was a trans woman but then suddenly started dressing as a man again, probably realised it's hard work being a woman! My friends child who identified as a boy for awhile at 14 and flattened her breasts and changed her name by deed pole. Two years later decided she wanted to be female again, she has damaged her breasts. I don't think it's right to allow kids to damage thier bodies. None of this has any affect on my life, what I do object to is being called a sis woman. I'm just a woman thank you. We don't need to change our identity to suit a very small minority.

The members of the trans community that I have met have been trans men. I don’t know if they genuinely felt like their outside didn’t match their inside but I do know they struggled with their bodies being sexualised by men. I knew them as teenagers and all had incidents in which they were sexually harassed, started wearing baggier clothes, band hoodies and eventually transitioned to men.

The issue isn’t so much the trans community but men. When I was 18 and on a night out I went to the ladies bathroom alone. As I was coming out of the cubicle, a middle aged man who was hammered came into the bathroom. He told me to fuck off that I was in the wrong toilet (I wasn’t) and then proceeded to piss on the sinks. I was fortunately able to leave the bathroom but if he’d wanted to stop me, I wouldn’t have had anywhere to go. There was nobody else in the bathroom to protect me if he’d decided to do something other than piss on the sinks. I went to the bouncers, told them what had happened and they threw him out and barred him. The problem is that whilst trans women are interjecting themselves into women’s spaces and it doesn’t require anything other than to say you identify as a woman, had this happened now he could have just said he identified as a woman. Hopefully the bouncers would still have been able to kick him out for pissing on the sink but they might also be wary of upsetting a trans rights activist and being branded as a transphobe.

They feel unsafe being in a male environment in a changing room? Do their feelings trump ours, because we also feel unsafe in an environment where there are men in our safe spaces.

Several. The one going up and down the glass sided escalators at a shopping centre, on a Saturday afternoon next to a gigantic dinosaur display. Wouldn’t have been a problem except there were hundreds of children there, he had a tiny skirt on fishnets and no knickers and his boyfriend had him on a leash. I reported him to security who were too afraid to do anything so I called the police. The angry TW who demanded to be in the women’s only swim hour and smashed the shit out of the lane swimmers. I Stopped going when they were going as did everyone else so they cancelled women’s swim. My niece. Too painful to talk about her, she’s abusing herself, cutting and chestbinding. There’s a lovely TW that works in a local shop, middle aged, just doing the job and getting on with life.

This is one of the problems isn't it? Often it's the TRAs that are the aggressive and violent. But allowing men who identify as women into women's spaces makes the spaces unisex.
The many have destroyed it for the few I think, and that's why the judgement was the only reasonable outcome.

Only males can be rapists. Females can be convicted of rape but a penis has to be involved (assisting a rape). The penis needs to be present.

And why wouldn't she have been equally happy growing up, maturing and living her authentic life as a (butch) lesbian? Who can say?

School is a nightmare for many teenagers. They self harmed and starved themselves and refused to attend classes for a long time before this cohort decided they were the opposite sex.

My goddaughter is autistic and suffering from trauma due to an event in thier childhood. They started to transition to male at around 15 and now take testosterone at 18.

It's affected me as I have felt that they should have got more support for the autism and trauma before being allowed hormones and I've felt very powerless in the face of a GP, cahms and school who all took this at face value in my view. There wasn't even any trauma counselling.

This person is no happier than before starting testosterone. Maybe it's too early to tell and they will be ok in another few years but I feel like very vulnerable young people have been let down.

They might be stronger but they do not sexually offend or commit violent crimes with anything even vaguely resembling the risk profile of a man of any gender presentation. Because they are women. So I do not fear them.

I have no problem if people want to live in a different way, put the bloody dress on if you want. Just don't flash your penis at me and think it's okay to dress in bandage gear at a supposed family friendly parade and pretend to ejaculated from pretend penis on children!

Lie to yourself all you want, but don't force me to be complicit in that lie. Don't take away my safe spaces.

Let's not kid ourselves here as well, it's not trans men who typically are the issue here. It's trans women, with their fetishism behaviours. Their legitimate threat they pose to women.

I worked with a trans woman, she was lovely, kind, and I was sad when she died. But she also never shoved the agenda down our throat. She wasn't dressing like a caricature of a woman like so many do.

These days, the trans women agenda is just a facade for men wanting to control women.

And because you’re completely confident you’re going to be able to identify them as a trans man (as opposed to a man who is not trans) just from looking at them….. can’t see any potential problems there 🙄

Higher than male non trans rates, see the stats I posted earlier.

Personality wise, she’s honest, guileless, no agenda, open, not bitchy or two faced, so yeah I’d say she’s very genuine.

Never in my life had an issue with a trans woman but have had many many issues with cis men. It’s not all men but it’s more men than it is trans women. I will stick by trans women (and trans people as a whole) and raise my DC to do the same.

The trans women I know have the sort of mental health issues that I wouldn’t want to be alone in a confined space with them, I appreciate this is my job and unfortunately I have been the victim of sexual assault / attempted sexual assault so / but this has made me avoid any mixed sex toilets where possible and given me high anxiety when using gender neutral toilets or the thought that mixed sex changing areas could admit men/Transwomen.

I watched the Olympic boxing and had to turn it off when shown a man punching a woman in the head.

I’ve been to women’s issues/rights events where people who ID as trans have treated and intimidated women.

The Green Party made everyone voting on the women’s committee sign an eligibility form that declared “I identify as a woman”…which is not true of most women but is true of all men joining women-only groups.

The women on NHS wards who have a medical need for a side room have been compromised because the side rooms have been used for men who ID as women despite no medical necessity for isolation.

women in prison cells have been very compromised (I met a woman in Glasgow who described the effect of being in prison with a man IDing as a woman on a women’s win).

The nation’s data has been corrupted by the ONS and others collecting “gender” not stats on the sexes.

The police have used male officers who ID as women to strep search women.

Women who have posted government data on crime statistics have been arrested by the police

Unknown Numbers of women unknowingly have No -Crime-Hate-Incident records against them after being reported by a “trans” person or ally for being honest.

I go to an event where trans identifying males are often trying to attach themselves to the lesbian contingent. There are several trans identifying males who attend. Most use the male toilets , but a couple use the women’s and will try and engage the women in conversation. Most of us just look at each other with a silent sigh and leave.

In other areas of life I have met a number of mentally unwell men who have claimed to have gender dysphoria. I do not think affirmation is kind , they need psychiatric help, not lipstick tips.

The only trans identifying female I met had been the subject of horrific sexual abuse .

The hyperbole from trans rights activists the last couple of days has been unsurprising.

Just tell your dc if anyone makes them feel uncomfortable it's ok to be rude and it's ok to leave. Please don't try to get them to over-ride their instincts to 'be kind'

Of course you are affected. You might like it, but you are affected by what women gain or lose. it’s like saying ‘women being able to become teachers did not affect me’.

Yep, I’d also tell them men carry the same risk, whether all the men you meet are horrible and all the trans women you meet are wonderful. The risk, as they are all male, remains the same.

^ This. And, I also “just want to be left alone to live in peace in a way that feels right” to me, ie with the single-sex spaces provided for in law. Are my feelings and wishes less important because I am female?