How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

Ah, well you did word it slightly differently, I’ll give you that, but I see my prediction was bang on the money.

I work in the leisure industry. Consistant issues with changing rooms, toilets and women only activities with targeted action by the 'trans community' to want inclusion, in most cases the individuals causing the issues are clearly self identifying.

The women only activities we run are mainly for women from religious backgrounds where for instance they can't swim unless it's segregated. Cue a 6ft2 white male self identifying into the session of which occupancy of the sessions reduced by 80% but sure no impact on women.

The Leisure industry is built on statistics for health and wellbeing which means we know exactly the impact on women and girls so completely pissing me off listening to commentators talking about how this alot of smoke about 1% of the population.

Because when people can't access wellbeing and leisure the impact is felt on health care 10 years later.

I can tell you that industry bodies have jumped on this ruling super quick and the majority of colleagues across the UK are estastic we can go back to normality without the risk of legal challenges.

Not all other than in the general positive effect of knowing someone nice

Except depending on testosterone use etc, they are/could be.

Trans men, who were female at birth, could still reasonably be stronger than your “average” female if they have began hormonal treatment, which would heighten the “risk,” surely? Some of them, if they have transitioned, will also have penises.

I think in reality a lot of women would raise an eyebrow at least at anyone with a beard, presenting as male, in their spaces.

I bloody hate mixed sex loos.

We used to host overseas teenage students as my sideline when kids were small. Dh didn’t like it but agreed as long as we hosted girls only (we had two small girls and their room was near the students room). We had a few years of it all fine then were allotted a girl and a boy who wore eye shadow 🙄. So we had mixed sex under 16s sharing a room in our house putting us in breach of our safeguarding obligations. Dh furious as a man was in the house against our specific instructions to the language school. I stopped hosting. Too risky.

my friend’s daughter was the most troubled child I ever met. She self harmed and had multiple attempts at suicide. She barely left the house and was a school refuser. She is now he, is excelling in a people facing job, has a female partner, a home and is happy. Changing gender saved their life, and I am horrified at the current narrative around transgender people. I guess he should now have to use women’s toilets, how is that going to work?

@SleeplessInWherever I'd be scared if a trans male came into my bathroom. As someone with a disability, I already have a higher chance of being abused.

Thank you. It’s taken an awful lot of tears and hard work to get him to where he is now ie him accepting that he didn’t do anything wrong and he was manipulated by adults. What actually shocked me in the direct aftermath was the sheer number of therapists who outright refused to take him on once I’d explained that it was three trans women who had sexually abused him. Dozens, and I mean dozens, at the initial enquiry stage when I said I was looking for support for a teenage boy who’d been sexually abused, were happy to take him on. Then when I elaborated that it was a trans person I was either told “sorry, we can’t work together” or just ghosted. Getting him the support he needed was an uphill battle but he is doing well and we’re taking it day by day.

That’s for men to work out.

Of course it’s debate. If it’s not going the way you like maybe start asking yourself why. Put forward more points.

You can debate 2+2=5 because you genuinely believe it does. But the majority are going to disagree, because of an inconvenient thing called fact. You can have your own feelings, you can’t have your own facts. Never has a saying had so much relevance to this ‘debate’/ideology.

The ones I know are perfectly nice, and no more a threat to women than those who were female at birth. My experience, like most, and at least one trans woman I know, is that those perpetrating sex offences are typically straight males.

The published stats are very clear on this and you’re factually incorrect.

I used to work in a National tech company with a young Man, 5 years ago he decided he was suddenly a Woman, he got free rein to the Womens’ loos and changing room. None of the Women were asked if it was ok and when I did some digging online I found porn pictures of him taken in the office toilets, not in a cubicle, by the sinks where anyone could have walked in on him.
I reported it to one of the directors because his profile on the firm’s website had a direct link to the porn site - and precisely nothing was done.

I also had an intimidating experience in Euston station loos, a hulking oaf of a Man in a mini skirt and crop top was lurking outside the cubicles, almost daring Women to confront him.

I was pointing out to the poster’s comment that she has been sexually assaulted by many men, but not by trans women. I was making the point that it wasn’t a figure to celebrate - her chances of coming accross a predatory transwoman are greatly reduced in comparison to coming accross a predatory man. But predatory trans women do absolutely exist in great numbers.

Professionally somewhat. It infuriates me as a speech and language by profession, that we can magic up the resources to treat trans women learning how to deepen their voices, but to do this, we have cut our services to learning disabled children and dysphagia patients.

I know several young (20s) transmen. I would bet they are all autistic. Don't affect me at all.

But I worry about my teenage daughter who refuses to do PE for various reasons, including sharing a space with a boy who identifies as a girl. Or play sports with them (she actually does a sport which men and women compete equally but it's not one that could affect her physically)

And who has seen many of her female friends identify as boys only to come out the other side, but could have easily gone down the medication path. It was very confusing in terms of names and pronouns. There is a teacher at her school who is apparently non binary and changes gender on a regular basis and the kids get consequences for misgendering them.

She's also been sexually assaulted and really doesn't want people with penises in changing rooms and female spaces.

Honestly though I really don't care how people dress. If they want to wear make up and skirts all good. But a cygnet is not a duck. A man in a dress is not a woman.

Every one has a right to safe spaces, equally. But they don't have to do that at the detriment to others

The narrative is around women, what that definition means in law and what it means for their sex based spaces, I.e excluding biological males from their spaces and sports. If your friends daughter wants to go in with the males that’s up to them to say if they have a problem with it or not (likely not as statistically she’s not a risk to them, being biologically female). It’s not the same.

The ruling, not FWS, aren’t calling for the death of all trans people.

Yes. A family member, a young teen, is struggling and has decided she’s a man. Has changed name etc. Don’t know if she’s on medication.

She has MH difficulties and may be autistic I suspect, as other family members are. I think this ideology has taken her in completely the wrong direction and and am extremely worried. Praying she doesn’t do anything irreversible.

They may have an appendage fashioned from excess skin, they will not have a penis.

Most 'transwomen' ARE straight men.

what are the rape stats for trans men?

do trans men offend at male rates or female?

Not our problem. Something they need to take up with the individual agencies/companies as to how they wish to address provision of their own spaces. But they can’t use our spaces…..

I know several people who are trans. All except one are perfectly lovely, and all just want to be left alone to live in peace in a way that feels right to them. All live the way they live 100% of the time - none are presenting as 'Barry' one day and 'Jane' the next. Would feel (and be) unsafe in a changing room with men. None of them would be prancing around with their penises out if they still had them (we dont discuss what is in their pants, except the one I am not very keen on who wanted to tell me at length about their surgery and got arsey when I declined to listen). The activists I have heard speaking on this do not seem to represent the people I know.

I work with MtF prisoners. Sex offenders. I'm interested in whether the news will reduce the number of sex offenders who want to transition because there should be no material benefit to their life on release (access to female only spaces).

It will have minimal impact on them now as the only ones who can be housed in the female estate must have a GRC and have had gender reassignment surgery.

MtF who retain their penis can only be housed in the male estate. That ruling was made early 2024.

You do realise that is a snapshot at a point in time and not a catalogue of every tw who has offended, right?

And you do realise that our reporting rates, charging rates and conviction rates for any form of sexual assaults in this country are unbelievably low - in fact for rape only about 2.7% of recorded rapes were charged in 2024 and about 53% secured convictions. So 1.4% of reported rapes result in convictions. But that is only rapes recorded by the police. Only about 1 in 6 rapes is even reported. So that conviction rates is about 0.023% of actual rapes. And rapes are only about 36% of sexual assaults.

but I suspect you know all that and are minimising deliberately. But yes it is a real fucking risk.