How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

The trans community can do what it likes as long as it doesn't negatively affect women in any way whatsoever or encroach on our very few puny little rights. And I'm delighted that after the Supreme Court ruling no woman will ever again feel obliged to agree that TWAW in order to keep her job or access rape counseling services.

You want stats? Here you go…there’s plenty more available a mere google away.

(Predicts: ‘I want stats…..no, not those stats’)

Too many experiences to count.
My DSD is gay and won't go on the apps any more because of the creepy men who say they are lesbians. She can't go out because of her disabilities so.she hasn't dated in four years.
My niece who was non-binary for a while who permanently changed her name even when she stopped being non-binary. She is gay, autistic, school-refusing and self harms because her mental health needs are not being met. She was at a school where boys were transed to girls, often without their parents knowing. This issue almost caused a rift between her mother and me.
I have a friend who is a woman identifying as a man. She and her wife no longer speak to me because of my views.
I was very involved with a women's charity and could not publicly speak out about my views because it would have been a disciplinary offence. I still can't break the habit so I'm not able to go to feminist events or the Supreme Court or have my photo taken at the one feminist group I do attend. I would love to be an activist for women and with my background I could offer a great deal of practical support but I can't.
Years ago at a trade union women's conference there was a man identifying as a woman who disrupted the female only environment. He was mid-50s with three grown up children who disowned him.
Being asked about my views by a famous feminist and not being able to tell her and she thought it was because I was pro-trans but it was to do with the charity above.
Meeting famous trans people from across the world who have been in the news and being told I wasn't a proper woman but they were.
Meeting trans people in a group and noticing how simpering and female stereotypical they were.

Many many more stories.

Oh yes, having a post reported and deleted by MN for saying things that trans people consider a slur but are biological facts under guidelines set in 2018 before Forstater which should be changed.

You’re missing the point. You’re 100% confident you can tell the difference?

I went into the women’s toilet in a restaurant a while back with my 5yo daughter. There was a trans woman already in there, shaving at the sink. Our eyes met in the mirror for a second and then I walked quickly back out. I got a shock but that was the only negative experience I have ever had.
The reason I was freaked out was partly to do with the fact that this person looked biologically male but also because they smelled heavily of alcohol, had bloodshot eyes and appeared drunk, wearing party/ going out clothes at lunchtime and shaving their face in a public bathroom.

@Mudkipper Thank you. I will remember that hopefully.

I agree.

Expressing the thought that trans women might not be female became a bannable offence on Reddit.

I actually looked at some threads following the court ruling this week and there were people agreeing with - and these the most upvoted posts.

I do wonder if the site banned huge numbers of its female users though - which seems like a discriminatory campaign in itself, although I suppose as a private business it can dictate its own terms.

A bit annoying as I like participating in all sorts of topics.

I'm not sure what your point is. Men who identify as trans offend at the same rate as other men. Men's desire to attack and rape women, to expose their genitals and make sexualised comments is one of the reasons women have single sex spaces. I don't understand why you think the proportion of men who identify as trans to the male population is in any way significant. All men should stay out of women's spaces. It's quite simple.

I am a middle aged woman and a domestic abuse survivor. I also play in a small indie band and both myself and husband (who is in my band) have spoke out about protecting women's safe spaces, in particular; VAW refuges and women's prisons. We have been cancelled by the teeny tiny indie scene that our music would appeal to and find it hard to get gigs and are called transphobes. Totally shunned. We also supported a close friend whose ex husband came out as trans and was emotionally abusive to her and their children. We have been told by certain people that certain wealthy figures have cancelled us and have told people not to give us gigs etc . We are not in a position to take legal action being skint working class parents trying to do music as a hobby/ passion whilst working the daily grind. We do not hate trans people .I have worked with trans people for many years in my day job. I do prioritise safeguarding of women and children and the legislation needed clarity.

Personally it hasn’t affected me at all. I know one trans woman and they/she/whatever are one of the sweetest, gentlest, more genuine people I’ve ever met.

Yet they have v high rates of sexual offending so…

I was told at a group I used to attend (I was a long standing member, actually one of the originals) that I could no longer refer to myself as a mum/ mother as the new TW member found it "triggering" because "she" couldn't get pregnant.

And not actually the trans community, but my abuser used to ponder aloud how great it would be if he could join the girls groups i was in/ come on camp with us/ come into the ladies changing rooms with me. These days he could just claim to be a TW and would be allowed in all those places.

Actually, the rate of sexual offences is higher in the TW population than the male population as a whole. See @Delphigirl post above

Trans identified men are much MORE likely to be sex offenders than ordinary men

No that's super helpful actually. So 92 out of a UK population of about 68 million is around 0.00015 of the population. Apply that to pretty much any other group/demographic and consider whether people would feel the same way. I doubt it. Anyway I'm off to walk the dog as this thread has become what it always becomes.

I have made the same point and been called racist- with no elaboration to why.

It is a very similar situation. I can’t braid my hair and say I am black and so expect to be treated as such. To take opportunities designed to make things more fair when I shouldn’t . To treat someone elses culture like a costume which I can take on and off again to suit me without having the deal with all the crap that comes with it.

If you can be born in the wrong body, why can’t you be born in the wrong race? Why is it okay to dress like a stereotype as a woman but not another race? It’s almost like it would be offensive…

It’s quite astounding that someone literally claiming to be the opposite sex is the most genuine person you’ve ever met.
The mind boggles.

You really don’t understand rates, do you

Yes, women do have the right to demand that men are excluded from their single sex spaces. That’s literally the point of the SC decision. Do keep up.

Oh and editing to say I agree with GCAcademic. You’re a racist.

An equivalent example based on ethnicity would be “I was at a black only space and a white person walked in. My immediate reaction was to feel scared because I didn’t know whether they had nefarious intentions”. The answer wouldn’t be to address their own prejudices. It would be that white people shouldn’t be entering safe spaces for black people.

Notable to mention that the raw data they used for the piece they did was Department of Justice data on the prison population.

It showed that within the group of convicted males who identified as trans there was a higher rate of conviction for sexual offences than in the male population.

If the world hadn't been so swept up in this nonsensical belief that people can change sex, we wouldn't need to be worrying and wondering what sex someone is. There have always been people who look ambiguous, but in general they'd use the spaces allocated to their sex. Occasionally, they'd be in opposite sex faculties by the invitation of the people who knew them. But now that women's rights have been so comprehensively trampled on, it's all become a much bigger issue.
I wish trans allies would just listen to what women are saying.. It's often not individual trans people who are a problem, it's the loopholes that were created that allowed predatory men access to women. Yesterday's verdict is going some way to addressing that.
Women are fighting to protect their children too. Not just women's rights.

Yup, people come with receipts ans can back up the arguments they make and if it doesn’t tie in with your ideology, it’s see ya you big transphobes. #nodebate

Last year as part of a women’s festival we organised a “Speakers’ Corner” in our city centre. Women took turns to stand up and talk about the many issues that affect women. This was absolutely NOT anti trans, it was about women.
Local TRAs turned up to destroy our meeting, they played loud music, chanted, swore, called us names, and as we left many of them tried to spit on us.

I don't see any debate going on here.