So how do I live in the female gender?

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There are 8834 people in the UK who have a Gender Recognition Certificate.
I am one of them.

To get it, I had to show evidence of transition, surgery etc. Lots of hoops

I also had to swear a Statutory Declaration. I had to go to a Magistrates Court and swear a legal declaration in front of a magistrate. It was all very formal.

I had to swear this:

" have lived as a (insert ‘male’ or ‘female’ as appropriate)
throughout the period of years before the date of this statutory
declaration and I intend to live in that gender until death."

This declaration is legally binding. Apparently if I don't follow this, I can be done for perjury.

So...how do I live as a female and live in that gender until death - I have sworn to do this in front of a magistrate.

I was very surprised that so few trans people have Gender Recognition Certificates.

You are a 'he' so you need to get used to it now.

You were sold a mistruth.

Having surgery was not the answer.

You could have lived more happily as a man, with all your genitals intact, with more MH support.

I would challenge him because how would I know if he had a penis or not?

How do you know how I feel and how I could have lived?

Because I clearly live very happily now and am much more comfortable than before.

Without my genitals.

Except you started this thread.

Agree
Plus it’s our toilets that were turned into gender neutral OR

As the Barbican did to be more ‘inclusive’ they renamed their WCs as

Toilets with urinals
and Toilets without urinals

🤣🤣🤣. Men at their best !

But why would you eliminate if it you cause upset for tens of thousands of people who already live a difficult life? So a bigot can sleep better at night to not be scared of something that was never going to happen anyway? Get off the internet obsessing over a thing that doesn’t affect your personal life and get a hobby. Or have you been assaulted by a trans woman? Because if that’s the case ok sure Im happy to listen to your argument

No THIS has to stop.

Nobody needs to hear a person justify stealing from another. It’s just a little bit, honest! It’s not going to do you any harm, I promise! You won’t even notice! Oh but there wasn’t anyone in here and I was desperate! ENOUGH.

Women’s spaces are for women. Disabled spaces are for disabled people. Not for transitioned men or women, however harmless and lovely they may be.

If I’ve leaked through my tampon and pad and have to change everything in public loos and get blood on my hands and be flustered and sweaty, I want to do so around people who know what it’s like. And no, I’m not saying that this is what a trans woman might do more probably than a woman would ever do - whether they do or don’t isn’t the point. I am the point. I don’t want to be looking over my shoulder and why should I? I don’t want to have to make any mental leaps to make other people feel better in those circumstances and why should I?

Why should I have to put myself in the shoes of someone else and try to guess whether their intentions are pure or not, if they’re a concern or not, just because I’m a woman?

It’s not about needing a cock and balls to assault a woman. It’s about ME and MY dignity and MY right to just be myself and have MY fair share just the way men do. It’s not about the transitioned/transitioning person fgs. I wish the same for trans women too: they should have their spaces, just for them, without any concerns for who might be looking and judging when they’re vulnerable to whatever experiences they’re going through.

The answer to this problem isn’t to take from women. It’s to plough your own furrow.

Well it would if you committed a sex crime, however you've said you've had the surgery so I'll assume for this purpose you are fully gender reassigned and not just half.

I suppose for some (playing devil's advocate) a male pedophile transitioning to female to go undetected would be brought up in court.

Doesn't mean I'm not happy.

It seems strange that someone is explaining to me what I should have done when they don't know anything about how I felt before and how I feel now.

Firstly, sadly surgery is not a guarantee that a man who wants to will not abuse women.

Secondly, a man who has had surgery to approximate some of the external features of women is not in any way more of an actual woman than a man who has not, he's just a man who had extreme surgery.

There are people who for whatever reason have found comfort in extreme body modification to look like a tiger, or an alien, or a snake. I'm pretty sure they get just as hard a time, if not more so, as trans women, yet no one suggests they need to be in with the women to keep them safe. The only reason it keeps being suggested as somehow reasonable to include men who claim to be women in women's spaces is because the costume they picked to escape whatever it is they feel they need to escape happens to be a woman.

Thirdly, the whole concept of transitioning is sexist. Women are not a costume to be put on, even if the costume is extreme enough to include surgery. I don't want to share a woman-only space with a man in a sexist T shirt and I don't wamt to share it with a man in a sexist woman-suit. Both of them are clearly demonstrating they hold me in contempt, that they see me as someone they have the right to define and dicate to regardless of how I may see myself and what I might want for myself.

It seems bizarre they say you must live as the opposite gender til death. I guess it's like 'til death do us part' in a marriage ceremony. Does it mean you'd need to do the process all over again to change back?

I don't know how you can live as a different sex to the one you're born with, other than how you have been previously. Presumably dressing, acting and looking more stereotypically that sex?

I would always call someone by whatever name or pronouns they wished.
As long as you realise being trans is seperate from being that bio sex. No better or worse, but you will always be in a different category.

You’re still a man. Knob or not.

But you've started a thread about how to live as a woman.

You've been doing it for a long time.

The only thing that has changed is you can't access women's spaces, play sport as a women, go into women's refuges, or be in a women's prison.

You didn't answer any of my questions before about why you felt you were a woman and how life is better now you've had surgery.

What are you worried about?

It does bother me - but there's nothing I can do about it.

There are plenty of other things about being trans that have made life much harder than it could have been but I had no choice but to do this.

I didn't choose to be trans. I didn't choose to make my life much harder than it could have been.

if the trans woman was the best person for the job then absolutely they should get the job. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that.

You wouldn’t be hiring a female though as it has just been decided by the Supreme Court.

I am worried about the toilet situation.

I am worried about the increased level of hate crime towards trans people.

I'm sure you do, but when you say "Lol OK" are you seriously arguing that the majority of the crowd at football are not men and that groups of straight men go to the ballet in big numbers?

The genders are different, whether you acknowledge that or not. The majority of women are feminine and the majority of men are masculine. They tend to dress and have interests accordingly. I can't believe I'm having to explain this to a grown adult.

OP swore in court to live as a woman. It's interesting that the legal system doesn't have any navel-gazing and deconstructing about what that means! Everyone knows what it means, except people who are pretending not to understand in order to make a point.

Only a man would voraciously bully their way into women’s spaces, and women’s places, declare that term for themselves, expect the ‘original’ women to change their terms, their names and make space for the new women, and then complain we didn’t smile and thank them for their efforts. Only a fucking man.

Of course you chose to be trans.

Trans means 'transition'.

You could have lived with your cock and balls. I genuinely can't see how your life is better or if the painful surgery was really worth it.

Do you date men? Presumably you aren't attracted to women unless you're now a lesbian?

Great example of how to utterly miss the point. Women are entitled to single sex facilities in certain circumstances…we can only have single sex spaces if access to those spaces is via biological sex. Can you in practise make a differentiation between a fully transitioned, law abiding ,GRC holding TW and a biological male who decides they want to access somewhere meant for women only? Sexual predators are opportunistic , once we normalise the fact that everyone can use the single sex space of their choosing , we vastly increase the risks for women. We have no way of knowing who those sexual predators are because they don’t tend to go around with handy badges on. You only have to look at the access that Jimmy Saville was granted to know how easily we acquiesce to manipulative individuals.

No, I didn't choose to be trans any more than anyone chooses their sexuality.

Why do you think there will be more hate crimes and who will commit these crimes? Men, I assume? Shouldnt you be on Dadsnet then? Because the women on here are unlikely to assault men.

Can you think why I might think my life is better?

Well now you know what women have lived with for centuries. Worried about being assaulted.

You need to work on educating men to allow men like you use men's toilets.

It's MEN who need to reassess this not women.