Labour isn't working Thread 2

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The tories should be worried, they are still unelectable. I've never been a fan of Kemi Badenoch.

Labour still trying out old lines. Black hole, inherited, pockets. Good luck with that.

Of course they are, no surprise there. Like a stuck record. The truth is that they are incompetent and the cabinet resembles a mad hatters tea party.

Cue policies to try and out-reform reform.

I like to think that usual Labour snark was read by 6 posters who turned up and voted.

Karma 😬

its so bloody predictable black hole inherited shite further avd fucking faster breakfast clubs that noone fucking wants ODFOD

It’s a shame Cummings blew partygate up I blame him for this mess 😀

But also after that it was inevitable we’d have to see a Labour gov to know the reality, it’s just so bloody tedious and painful.

Cummings is so like a characture from some weird magazine 🤣🤣🤣

Agreed. Whether you liked him or not, Boris with his huge personality was the Conservatives' frontman, IMO, and we'll never really know if he would have gone on to lead the party or be a willing conduit for their policies.

Duplicitous and malicious Cummings was a disaster.

2021 was a big shift to Conservatives in local elections and that was just before partygate. That was what impacted them more than anything Starmer could do or say.

If we end up with Reform at next GE I’m putting Cummings down as the sliding doors moment.

The previous one was Ed Miliband over his brother.

Very good point Eastern.
Cummings is now fully backing Reform and has been encouraging his followers to vote for them. He's an evil genius imo.

Reform have just taken Staffordshire council from the tories. That could be another sliding doors moment for Kemi B.

But Starmer didn't "romp ahead" last year. Labour got virtually the same votes as Corbyn did at the previous GE. The reason Labour won wasn't because they were popular, it was because the Tory vote collapsed due to Sunak and Tory voters moved to Libdems and Reform. Labour didn't "win" the GE, the Tories lost it!

Looking at BBC and Lib Dems have overtaken Labour on the count. The colour switch made me double take.

Great that it is going well. A few of DC's cohort went abroad for further study. Several sporty ones went to American universities and some others who didn't make the grade for medicine or dentistry here and could get in with lower grades in Europe.

Yes not the strongest start and easy to slip from. I struggle to see how Farage has any appeal to anyone but then I remind myself of Brexit.

It's fascinating to watch isn't it? Everything is turquoise. I can't get any work done but I can't switch it off 😂
@Upstartled was right about Durham.

Maybe Labour will end up at end of the row behind everyone else. That’d be pretty funny.

Jacob Rees-Mogg says 'conservatism having fantastic 24 hours', as he urges Tories and Reform UK to work together
looks like the Victorian gentleman is hedging his bets (v.apt for him). Look Kemi - an exit sign.

Hopefully, the Tories will oust Kemi and actually vote in a competent/popular leader. After Truss and Sunak, and now Kemi, they seem to love shooting themselves in the foot with unpopular/incompetents.

They need to get back to core values, i.e. traditional standards, small businesses, self employment, workers, etc. Sunak lost them 3 million voters by excluding small business owners, self employed and freelancers from the Covid support schemes - they'd be traditional/typical Tory voters who they've lost.

Labour are for minorities and public sector/unionised workers and their attitude is "sod everyone else" hence why they're losing the low level of popularity they won the GE with.

This is absolutely extraordinary.

Edit to say sorry the pic didn't follow the quote but just watching the Reform lead.

Reform are about to take control of Lancashire County Council. They're already on 40 seats and only need 3 more to take control, with 20 yet to be declared. Total collapse of both the Labour and Tory voters (Lab lost 22 and Tories lost 28 so far). Tories and Labour both need to make sweeping changes if either hope to win the next GE. Kemi and Starmer both need to resign, and Starmer needs to take Reeves with him too!

Reform now on 42 in Lancashire - only need 1 more to take control and 18 seats yet to be declared, so it's a nailed on certainty!

Can’t wait for question time and kuenesserg Sunday

Ooh, I've been missing all the good stuff, bastarding paperwork. Interesting times. John Curtice is suggesting that the voting share so far puts Labour voters at 20% and reform voters at 30%. This puts these parties approx. where the Find out Now poll was suggesting, although Tories are doing poorly against it - 15% iirc. So, people are voting for reform, rather than just threatening and the attempt to get people to vote tactically to keep them out has been unsuccessful. Lib-dems are having an amazing election too. Labour only kept 4 council seats in County Durham of 68, that's absolutely shocking.

Of course, Starmer's solution is to go further and faster. It's always further and faster. But, where the fuck is he going?

Same questions are being asked in Conservative HQ

Yeah, I bet. I think that there could be some wisdom if Kemi's strategy is to sit back while Labour fails to deliver at a national level and while reform's bombastic rhetoric is compelled to bend to banal day to day realities of local governance and fails to retain its new penny gloss. But I don't think there is the patience for it now and it does run the risk that they could fall off the board entirely.