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Thisshirtisonfire · 02/04/2025 02:08

Butchyrestingface · 01/04/2025 22:40

OJ was not convicted in a criminal court of the crimes I’m referring to.

As for Andrew never being prosecuted, neither was Jimmy Saville. In Andrew’s case, a massive pay-off saw to that.

Can’t believe there are Prince Andrew apologists even on here. A lid for every pot, indeed.

Cannot believe the prince andrew apologists coming out of the woodwork.

Virginia was probably dosed up on pain meds and writing nonsense online. She's a troubled person who's just had a relationship breakup.
None of that makes prince andrew less of a pos.
Turns out people who were sex trafficked in their teens can sometimes be a bit of a mess in adulthood! Wow what a shocker!

Prince Andrew has his arm around a sex trafficked teen in a photo.
I nor anyone will ever truly know if he slept with her or not. But he was there with sex trafficked teens. Smiling away. He was a middle aged man from a privileged background. Why the fuck did he not ask what these kids were doing there drinking and partying?
I'll tell you why he didn't ask.. coz he didn't care. He probably knew what epstein was doing and he just didn't really care.
Because he felt his whole ife like he's beyond reproach and he can just do what he wants without consequence.
He's a pos and anyone trying to defend any of that by putting the blame on Virginia coz she's 'unbalanced' or wants attention' is grim. It doesn't matter what her character is. She was a teenager being paid by middle aged powerful men, for sex. That's a fact. He was there. That's also a fact. That's enough for me to condemn him and it should be for anyone.

AquaPeer · 02/04/2025 02:17

Thisshirtisonfire · 02/04/2025 02:08

Cannot believe the prince andrew apologists coming out of the woodwork.

Virginia was probably dosed up on pain meds and writing nonsense online. She's a troubled person who's just had a relationship breakup.
None of that makes prince andrew less of a pos.
Turns out people who were sex trafficked in their teens can sometimes be a bit of a mess in adulthood! Wow what a shocker!

Prince Andrew has his arm around a sex trafficked teen in a photo.
I nor anyone will ever truly know if he slept with her or not. But he was there with sex trafficked teens. Smiling away. He was a middle aged man from a privileged background. Why the fuck did he not ask what these kids were doing there drinking and partying?
I'll tell you why he didn't ask.. coz he didn't care. He probably knew what epstein was doing and he just didn't really care.
Because he felt his whole ife like he's beyond reproach and he can just do what he wants without consequence.
He's a pos and anyone trying to defend any of that by putting the blame on Virginia coz she's 'unbalanced' or wants attention' is grim. It doesn't matter what her character is. She was a teenager being paid by middle aged powerful men, for sex. That's a fact. He was there. That's also a fact. That's enough for me to condemn him and it should be for anyone.

💯 this- Monica Lewinsky? No one believed her, no one. She was put through hell. A young woman put through hell by the most powerful man in the word.
Amazingly, she had DNA evidence, which is insane when you look back at it. No one would’ve believed her without it- plenty didn’t with it.
VG would never had had evidence like that. but history shows us that’s literally what you need to get people to believe the very likely scenario that an old powerful, well known sleaze of a man eagerly took the opportunity of sex with a young beautiful woman. Mad reallly.

user1492757084 · 02/04/2025 03:02

She posted again that she made a mistake in publishing that.
I think she's looking for sympathy from her ex or something of the like and she has form for telling lies and telling mistaken stories.

medlobath · 02/04/2025 04:53

Yeah this one has pretty much been confirmed as total crap. ( Am Australian and have been following the story, was not April fools as was the day before here 🙂

medlobath · 02/04/2025 05:50

There was a minor bus crash in a town somewhere vaguely near where she lives but police said no injuries. Also there is no way police and ambos would not turn up to a bus crash, particularly a school bus. They wouldn't just say " do the kids seem all good to the driver, yep, well off you go then "over the phone. It's total crap.

https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/thought-she-had-posted-it-on-her-private-page-virginia-giuffre-makes-bombshell-admission-after-claiming-she-had-four-days-to-live-following-bus-collision-in-western-australia/news-story/e2a677950bf85f89e84c6ff7f3dfd96a

Tried to link but am inept .

medlobath · 02/04/2025 06:04

I mean the bus crash is crap not the sex trafficking!!!!!!

Theunamedcat · 02/04/2025 06:22

EdithBond · 01/04/2025 23:36

Though, the risk with settling a case is the optics. It leads people to believe the person has, at very least, behaved in an unsavoury manner, even if not unlawfully. This suggests poor judgement, perhaps driven by feeling untouchable due to arrogance, privilege and/or wealth.

Agreed Micheal jackson settled a case people use it to say he was guilty he fought a case people STILL say he was guilty because he settled the first case

Personally I would have fought it but I think he slept with her do I think he "knew" she was trafficked? I'm not sure his arrogance would have him believe she wanted him because he was randy Andy a Prince of England hindsight would have showed him he was being fucking dumb hence settlement

BabyEl · 02/04/2025 06:25

I haven’t followed the Andrew stuff very much. I don’t know anything about the case.

But the fact she lied about being given four days to live and posted about it on her Instagram page makes me question a character. I really struggle to imagine someone doing this or it being an honest mistake.

FannyBawz · 02/04/2025 06:43

It’s manipulative bullshit and unfortunately makes me question everything else. I’d you can do that to your kids, you can do anything.

AquaPeer · 02/04/2025 07:01

FannyBawz · 02/04/2025 06:43

It’s manipulative bullshit and unfortunately makes me question everything else. I’d you can do that to your kids, you can do anything.

“unfortunately makes me question everything”

dont you think it’s obvious that many abuse victims have chaotic, difficult lives? It’s completely typical. Because - well, trauma

BlondiePortz · 02/04/2025 07:03

BabyEl · 02/04/2025 06:25

I haven’t followed the Andrew stuff very much. I don’t know anything about the case.

But the fact she lied about being given four days to live and posted about it on her Instagram page makes me question a character. I really struggle to imagine someone doing this or it being an honest mistake.

Knowing you have 4 days to live after a car accident is an honest mistake?

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 02/04/2025 07:09

Where’s everyone reading her retraction? I checked Twitter and ig and everything looks the same.

I can’t believe that’s her personal insta lol I honestly thought it was a hoax 😬 why did it have so little followers

HoppingPavlova · 02/04/2025 07:32

Yes, I’m in Aus and that’s supposedly where she lives these days. The police in the State she is said to reside in have publicly confirmed they know of no vehicle collision with a bus with any injuries, and they would have to know if it DID occur as there is no way there would be this without police attendance. So, it seems that didn’t happen.

Also, not convinced someone on deaths door with 4 days to live would be in a state to post to the extent she has, so no idea what’s going on there.

The whole thing is so very odd.

MrsPositivity1 · 02/04/2025 07:59

But able to post on the internet 🙄

TENSsion · 02/04/2025 08:07

Whether someone is guilty or innocent isn’t a reason to settle out of court.
It just shows they have lots of money and want the issue to go away.

changeme4this · 02/04/2025 08:07

She was/is living in Western Australia and was during the time of the P. Andy thing. Not far from relos of mine but they didn’t know her.

it was reported in the herald a representative said it was supposed to be a private post and not shared to a public forum.

since when do school buses do 110klms anyhow?

eye makeup appears intact and had that been me, it would have been streaming down my face while in pain.

for what it’s worth, her father who was giving statements from his overseas residence should get off his arse and head to his daughter. She obviously needs some sort of help.

Clearinguptheclutter · 02/04/2025 08:09

This seems to be a good summary of the latest
https://www.itv.com/news/2025-04-01/crash-involving-prince-andrew-accuser-was-minor-with-no-injuries-police-say

I believe that she was hugely exploited as a teenager and that is obviously awful but all this is plain attention seeking. If you’d had a mahoosive pay off to not go to court over this I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t be happy to keep a low profile existence

NautilusLionfish · 02/04/2025 08:25

Thisshirtisonfire · 02/04/2025 02:08

Cannot believe the prince andrew apologists coming out of the woodwork.

Virginia was probably dosed up on pain meds and writing nonsense online. She's a troubled person who's just had a relationship breakup.
None of that makes prince andrew less of a pos.
Turns out people who were sex trafficked in their teens can sometimes be a bit of a mess in adulthood! Wow what a shocker!

Prince Andrew has his arm around a sex trafficked teen in a photo.
I nor anyone will ever truly know if he slept with her or not. But he was there with sex trafficked teens. Smiling away. He was a middle aged man from a privileged background. Why the fuck did he not ask what these kids were doing there drinking and partying?
I'll tell you why he didn't ask.. coz he didn't care. He probably knew what epstein was doing and he just didn't really care.
Because he felt his whole ife like he's beyond reproach and he can just do what he wants without consequence.
He's a pos and anyone trying to defend any of that by putting the blame on Virginia coz she's 'unbalanced' or wants attention' is grim. It doesn't matter what her character is. She was a teenager being paid by middle aged powerful men, for sex. That's a fact. He was there. That's also a fact. That's enough for me to condemn him and it should be for anyone.

This. There is no irrefutable evidence that A raped (victims of trafficking cannot give real cobsent to their traffickers and their friends no matter the age) her. But then crime especially historical doesn't always have irrefutable evidence. May be she extorted him knowing a long case would be damaging. But the fact remains she was trafficked and he was there knowing what was happening. Perhaps participating actively in it. He certainly enabled it. He was part of the advertising (come party with us and witg a real prince!). He remained friends with a paedo after his first conviction and way later. Andrew doesn't deserve our sympathy. He and many named and unnamed should be in prison serving their sentences according to their roles whether rapist, procurer or enabler. An emotionally scared Virginia does. I hope she heals inside and outside

NautilusLionfish · 02/04/2025 08:28

Clearinguptheclutter · 02/04/2025 08:09

This seems to be a good summary of the latest
https://www.itv.com/news/2025-04-01/crash-involving-prince-andrew-accuser-was-minor-with-no-injuries-police-say

I believe that she was hugely exploited as a teenager and that is obviously awful but all this is plain attention seeking. If you’d had a mahoosive pay off to not go to court over this I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t be happy to keep a low profile existence

Perhaps because she is emotionally scared and is still crying out for someone to hear her. For a measure of justice. Perhaps because many (not all) persons abused in childhood bear emotional scars in adulthood and attention seeking can be one symptom of that damage

TENSsion · 02/04/2025 08:31

NautilusLionfish · 02/04/2025 08:25

This. There is no irrefutable evidence that A raped (victims of trafficking cannot give real cobsent to their traffickers and their friends no matter the age) her. But then crime especially historical doesn't always have irrefutable evidence. May be she extorted him knowing a long case would be damaging. But the fact remains she was trafficked and he was there knowing what was happening. Perhaps participating actively in it. He certainly enabled it. He was part of the advertising (come party with us and witg a real prince!). He remained friends with a paedo after his first conviction and way later. Andrew doesn't deserve our sympathy. He and many named and unnamed should be in prison serving their sentences according to their roles whether rapist, procurer or enabler. An emotionally scared Virginia does. I hope she heals inside and outside

Do we know it as a fact that he knew she was trafficked there?
I’m not meaning to sound captious, I genuinely haven’t seen that evidence.
I’ll happy accept it as fact if we have the evidence.

Clearinguptheclutter · 02/04/2025 08:33

NautilusLionfish · 02/04/2025 08:28

Perhaps because she is emotionally scared and is still crying out for someone to hear her. For a measure of justice. Perhaps because many (not all) persons abused in childhood bear emotional scars in adulthood and attention seeking can be one symptom of that damage

Perhaps- You do make a valid point. Some people are just attention seekers though. Obviously we don’t know what category she is in.

Hoppinggreen · 02/04/2025 08:51

Lying now doesn't mean she lied previously but I am sure some people will be delighted about this as it proves that Prince Andrew is just a lovely family man who did no wrong
A close relative WAS definitely abused by another family member but after that she made allegations about many other male members of the family to the extent that if she walked into a room where a male member of the family was alone they had to leave immediately
Absolutely tragic

LBFseBrom · 02/04/2025 08:53

I can assure you, Hoppinggreen, I take no delight in any of this.

Pedallleur · 02/04/2025 08:54

BlondiePortz · 02/04/2025 07:03

Knowing you have 4 days to live after a car accident is an honest mistake?

An excuse I use all the time. Some people wont believe me now!!

LBFseBrom · 02/04/2025 08:59

It's possible that Virginia Roberts overheard something, a snippet of convversation, that she interpreted as being 'four days to live', and made assumptions. I realise I am giving her the benefit of the doubt but people do misunderstand things, especially medical issues.

I'm surprised she wanted any publicity, she's kept a low profile for a few years. The impression was that she was living a family life, bringing up her children in safety. Now we hear she is estranged from them. Who knows?

However she is on the mend.