Thread 20 Starmer - Spring Statement

[DuncinToffee]

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Solid work. Just woke DH up from his traditional snooze on the sofa so he could have a snigger and hopefully he'll get his tired arse to bed now. Or maybe when he's finished sleeping through the last leg. He doesn't want to miss any of it 🙄

My DH is exactly the same with Death in Paradise! Always has no idea who the murderer is because he falls asleep 5 mins in but would never miss it.

We're working our way through Wisting at 2-3 evenings per episode. They're only 45 minute episodes! It's not like you can get the gist while you're nodding off when you barely understand a word of Norwegian.

Me too Piggy!

I probably count as a floating voter, I vote for the local candidate who will best represent my interests each time. In a parliamentary system, the only way you can vote for the PM is if you live in their constituency.
my current MP is one of the new “baby Labour MPs” and is very responsive and active both locally and in Parliament.

I kind of agree but of course we can help bring in the PM we want by helping the party get more seats. I voted for Labour because I wanted them to win, more than because I wanted KS as PM. I feel very conflicted about him.

I see that MN's unpaid nightwatch were left firefighting with a water pistol again, last night. What a way to celebrate 25 years.

Oh no, what happened?

This whole 'fan' thing is very much a left over from the Johnson era when people kept defending the indefensible.

It's absurd that some people think you can't or won't criticise the party you support

What happened PickaChew?

As I have repeated said, voters who vote because "They always voted <whatever>" are the first to be fucked when their party wins power. Because whatever their party does, they can rely on that vote.

The people who generally benefit from electing a government are the ones who only vote for a party on certain conditions and who would happily vote "diametrically" if they are promised something better.

People who always vote Tory have been well and truly fucked by the Tories over 14 years.

Presumably translated from Russian

Meanwhile up yours Vlad.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/29/mars_lander_airbus_stevenage/

From what I can see in site stuff, someone with an offensive username made 20 offensive posts (no elaboration of the nature of that offensiveness but after past incidents it's easy to guess) and there was a single person on nightwatch who only had the tools to delete them one at a time.

Are they still using volunteers at night? Why not pay someone in Aus and give them the tools to be effective?

Based on the url alone, I quite like the idea of a bus from Stevenage to Mars. DS1 would probably want to take a photo of it for his collection.

Loved the LBD link

Just a little point that we don't always vote because of what's in it for us. My anger at Labour would be centred on how their benefits cuts are affecting others, not me- as an example.

If society is equitable and fair, we all benefit.

This is an excellent point.

Well, yes. But if 80% vote for their own interests, and 20% vote for national interests, where are you going to end up ?

"You're not voting right !" maybe a fair accusation, but not one I can see being easy to fix.

where are you going to end up ?

Norway, perhaps??

Something to bear in mind from time to time

The nordic countries repeatedly come up on top of the happiest nation lists. They all have a much less unequal distribution of income and wealth. We never learn.

They are also far less populated than the UK, plus 3 of them are bigger in size compared to us. There's just no comparison really.

Something like 70% of Norway is uninhabitable.