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3K a month benefits

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applecrumble03 · 19/03/2025 10:22

I had made a previous post which I believe had been taken down over a lady giving me £10 for no reason, in no way was that post to brag about my benefits I had stated how much I get a month to show I’m not struggling for money so the only reason can be I was judged on my appearance and then someone had asked if this is benefits which I said yes as I have no reason to lie. I have read a few notifications on my drop down and people saying I’m doing this to wind people up and there is no way I get 3K a month benefits, I was asking a genuine question. Some comments were quite rude. So here is how -

Universal credit for me and 2 kids plus LCWRA
£1775 - my rent gets taken straight from this I get paid £1225
high rate adult disability payment £734
Child disability payment x2 £868
Child benefit £42 a week
Scottish child payment £213

minus rent £3208 paid directly to me per month.

Now no this is not fair to people who have to work. However they are able bodied people and it’s not my fault I would much rather be healthy and live a normal life.

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Justapunta · 19/03/2025 15:09

LBFseBrom · 19/03/2025 15:09

I get you, applecrumble and certainly do not resent you. I always think, that could have been me. The reason we pay into the welfare state (and I still do a little bit as a pensioner, long retired), is to provide that safety net for vulnerable people. None of us knows if we may need it one day.

Good luck to you, I hope things improve for you but don't feel guilty.

This op doesn’t feel in the least bit guilty!!

NotTheDebtDoctorWithTheHungryScalpel · 19/03/2025 15:10

WitchesCauldron · 19/03/2025 15:00

It's unsustainable. The welfare state is not there to fund social events. My kids went without because we couldn't afford it. And we both worked full time.

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What social events?

I detailed above what my household spends disability benefits on.

The government should be improving the NHS before cutting benefits people need to improve their situations.

They can't cut services back to absolutely nothing, and then cut money for the people who would use those services as well so they can't pay for it either. That really would leave me stuck in a cycle of living on benefits forever, whereas right now I'm trying to get to a point where I'm healthy enough to work again when dd finds the right medication and is able to attend school full time again.

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:10

OP, If I was you I'd just delete this post.

You don't have to justify your existance, if you were a millionaires son who was earning millions a day and paying fuck all tax, you wouldn't even attempt to explain yourself and the same trolls would be lauding you as a genius.

Thats the fucked up world we live in now.

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ScienceFanGirl · 19/03/2025 15:10

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:08

And ?

It doesn't occur to you most mums would swap having a 52K job and a healthy kids as opposed to have a child with severe disablities and looking after the child?? Have you any experience of looking affter disabled kids? Thought not.

Fucks sake, the trolls on here....

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Someone having a different view on this than you does not make them trolls.

I also think that this amount of money and other free stuff this poster is getting, after making some very questionable life choices, is fucking scandalous. And this much money is not necessary to cover the basics in life.

Wildflowers99 · 19/03/2025 15:11

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:08

And ?

It doesn't occur to you most mums would swap having a 52K job and a healthy kids as opposed to have a child with severe disablities and looking after the child?? Have you any experience of looking affter disabled kids? Thought not.

Fucks sake, the trolls on here....

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That argument could be used for any amount of money. Shall we give them 70,000 a year? How about a million? If not, why not? Because it has to be affordable for the state. 52k for 2 kids with ADHD is not affordable. Frankly, it’s immoral when somebody working FT can earn 22/23k.

marsaline · 19/03/2025 15:11

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:08

And ?

It doesn't occur to you most mums would swap having a 52K job and a healthy kids as opposed to have a child with severe disablities and looking after the child?? Have you any experience of looking affter disabled kids? Thought not.

Fucks sake, the trolls on here....

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To be fair, the children don't have severe disabilities. The children have ADHD.

Both of my children also have autism and ADHD. Most people who met them would never know. Of course some autistic children are severely disabled but the vast majority are affected in a lesser way.

JadedSoJaded · 19/03/2025 15:11

Hortus · 19/03/2025 13:28

Why do people want disabled people to be in poverty because they are healthy and have to work?

People don't want disabled people to be in poverty, but neither do they want to feel that their taxes are funding someone else's lifestyle choice.

I think it can stick in the craw that you are 21, don't work and have chosen to have 2 children, plenty of money, cleaners etc when other older people who work full time find it very difficult to afford to house themselves and have a family.

Also I think that children having ADHD and autism( who are able enough to attend school) is not viewed with the same sympathy as having children disabled with more profound problems.

The seemingly high amount of benefits you receive is about the equivalent of over £50k gross if you were working. In anyone's books that would be a very high salary for someone who is 21 years old, especially someone who has presumably got very few qualifications.
Having children at 16 and 17 is also generally not viewed as a wise or desirable choice either.

I wonder if you would have made the choice to have 2 children at that very young age if you had been healthy and had had to fund your and their lifestyle by working? Somehow I think not.

This! There is a degree of entitlement in the UK. What happened to personal
responsibility? Few people object to benefits being provided to those in need. They object to the sums that some receive.

There are so many couples choosing not to have children until later in life, or limiting to one child only, because they feel they cannot afford to raise them. They take personal responsibility for raising their own family. They don’t expect the state to fund them.

Many in need are also unable to access benefits. There are individuals desperately in need of financial assistance due to development of degenerative conditions in their prime who are deemed ineligible. How can this be, when others pull the MH card and are successful?

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:13

JadedSoJaded · 19/03/2025 15:11

This! There is a degree of entitlement in the UK. What happened to personal
responsibility? Few people object to benefits being provided to those in need. They object to the sums that some receive.

There are so many couples choosing not to have children until later in life, or limiting to one child only, because they feel they cannot afford to raise them. They take personal responsibility for raising their own family. They don’t expect the state to fund them.

Many in need are also unable to access benefits. There are individuals desperately in need of financial assistance due to development of degenerative conditions in their prime who are deemed ineligible. How can this be, when others pull the MH card and are successful?

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What happened to personal responsibility?

The super rich and powerful don't give a fuck, so why should everyone else??

WestwardHo1 · 19/03/2025 15:14

Someone having a different view on this than you does not make them trolls.

Absolutely.

Justapunta · 19/03/2025 15:15

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But she managed to go to the supermarket by herself. We know that because on her previous thread a stranger gave her money which she thought was weird as she's not poor.

Userlosername · 19/03/2025 15:17

applecrumble03 · 19/03/2025 10:22

I had made a previous post which I believe had been taken down over a lady giving me £10 for no reason, in no way was that post to brag about my benefits I had stated how much I get a month to show I’m not struggling for money so the only reason can be I was judged on my appearance and then someone had asked if this is benefits which I said yes as I have no reason to lie. I have read a few notifications on my drop down and people saying I’m doing this to wind people up and there is no way I get 3K a month benefits, I was asking a genuine question. Some comments were quite rude. So here is how -

Universal credit for me and 2 kids plus LCWRA
£1775 - my rent gets taken straight from this I get paid £1225
high rate adult disability payment £734
Child disability payment x2 £868
Child benefit £42 a week
Scottish child payment £213

minus rent £3208 paid directly to me per month.

Now no this is not fair to people who have to work. However they are able bodied people and it’s not my fault I would much rather be healthy and live a normal life.

Thanks for being honest. I think it is important to be able to discuss our experiences openly and have a debate.

Baconmaple · 19/03/2025 15:18

marsaline · 19/03/2025 15:11

To be fair, the children don't have severe disabilities. The children have ADHD.

Both of my children also have autism and ADHD. Most people who met them would never know. Of course some autistic children are severely disabled but the vast majority are affected in a lesser way.

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We don't know how severe the OPs childrens needs are. You can't just decide their level and state they are mild. She hasn't given any information regarding the children's needs. And they have autism and ADHD.
If they are already diagnosed at 5 years old they are more likely to be significant.

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:18

ScienceFanGirl · 19/03/2025 15:10

Someone having a different view on this than you does not make them trolls.

I also think that this amount of money and other free stuff this poster is getting, after making some very questionable life choices, is fucking scandalous. And this much money is not necessary to cover the basics in life.

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It is trolling.

She's not selling drugs , she's not doing anything illegal or committing fraud.

She's not not illegally claiming benefits for fucks sake. Your argument is as paper thin as saying anyoe who smokes fags (which are legal and on sale everywhere) as a 'questionable life choice' should be refused NHS treatment, where do you draw the line?

BrandNewHeretic · 19/03/2025 15:19

Quinlan · 19/03/2025 15:09

What is up with the speech therapy service in England? I’m in the west of Scotland and my son was suspected autism, had not been diagnosed but had a speech delay. We were invited along to a drop in speech and language session for the parents to get info and then 3 weeks later, he had his first one to one and we had them weekly until he was discharged. I don’t know anyone who had a long wait or didn’t get weekly appointments if it was needed.

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We're in Northern Ireland, not England. My sister had an 18 month wait and then offered 4 appointments spaced six months apart. She's had two of these so far and has since been paying for the weekly sessions in-between. The therapist they see has said herself it's not enough and DN would benefit from more regular sessions but unfortunately that's all that they could offer based on his current age and needs. There has been substantial improvement since the private sessions have started.

Userlosername · 19/03/2025 15:19

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:13

What happened to personal responsibility?

The super rich and powerful don't give a fuck, so why should everyone else??

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The super rich pay the vast majority of tax. I’m not one of them but I recognize they are the ones paying into the system.

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:20

Baconmaple · 19/03/2025 15:18

We don't know how severe the OPs childrens needs are. You can't just decide their level and state they are mild. She hasn't given any information regarding the children's needs. And they have autism and ADHD.
If they are already diagnosed at 5 years old they are more likely to be significant.

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This.

marsaline · 19/03/2025 15:21

Baconmaple · 19/03/2025 15:18

We don't know how severe the OPs childrens needs are. You can't just decide their level and state they are mild. She hasn't given any information regarding the children's needs. And they have autism and ADHD.
If they are already diagnosed at 5 years old they are more likely to be significant.

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No but neither is it accurate to refer to them as severely disabled. The OP herself hasn't said that.

The OP's previous thread was also all about her being given money whilst she was out shopping in a supermarket and asking whether something about her appearance must make her look poor. So this doesn't tie up with her current statements about groundhog day confined to her bed every day.

I suspect the OP's account of what she receives is completely true. Its very interesting.

marsaline · 19/03/2025 15:22

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She doesn't. her other thread was about being out shopping.

Justapunta · 19/03/2025 15:24

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GinandTonic24 · 19/03/2025 15:24

I think the OP may actually have underestimated her income. I'd estimate it at closer to £4,491 per month.

Universal credit (monthly)
Standard allownace: £311.68 (under 25)
Child element: £621.25
Disabled child: £487.58
LCWRA: £416.19
Housing: £500 (based on what OP says)
Total: £2336.70

Weekly benefits:
Child benefit: £42.55
Scottish child payment: £53.40
Scottish disability payment (enhanced care): £108.55
Scottish disability payment (enhanced mobility): £75.75
Scottish child disability payment (highest rate care): £108.55 x2
Total per month: £2156.05

Along with that, the OP will also get Council Tax Support, worth on average £750 plus a 35% reduction in water charges.

To have this sort of income after tax and NI, you'd need to earn around £80k a year. Assuming you have no student loans or pension contribution.

ListenToTheRiver · 19/03/2025 15:24

Starlight1984 · 19/03/2025 14:45

Sorry can someone please explain why we are paying out (hefty) financial benefits to people because their child has ADHD / autism? What exactly is the money supposed to pay for??

Whatever needs the child has.
Things such as,

Special clothing which can be more expensive due to sensory issues.
Taxis if they can’t manage public transport.
Therapy.
Larger nappies for older children.
Additional washing and power costs.
Larger pushchair for older children.

My friends daughter autistic and can not cope with public transport to college due to vulnerabilities and sensory issues. Her pip is used for Ubers to and from college but doesn’t cover the full cost. Without the help, her parents would struggle to pay for 2 Ubers 4/5 times a week.

ScienceFanGirl · 19/03/2025 15:25

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What was the title of that thread?

Userlosername · 19/03/2025 15:26

meandmydoggy · 19/03/2025 15:10

OP, If I was you I'd just delete this post.

You don't have to justify your existance, if you were a millionaires son who was earning millions a day and paying fuck all tax, you wouldn't even attempt to explain yourself and the same trolls would be lauding you as a genius.

Thats the fucked up world we live in now.

If she was earning millions she would be paying a huge amount of tax. Like it or not, the top 1-% pay about 30% of all tax. Op on the other hand is taking out of the system and not paying in. She may not be able to, but I do think it’s fair to question this. It seems she had children she wasn’t able to care for and receives a relatively large amount of money from the state without having to work.