PIP for ADHD

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Been in the news this morning as labour looking to slash benefits bills the cost is enormous and growing.

One of the main points discussed was getting PIP for ADHD I did not think this was possible …🤔.

We are taxed more than ever so cuts will abve to be made but surely this is madness giving out PIP for ADHD …there are genuine claims but… they said there are a 1000 new people per day now claiming PIP…so those on the make are going to spoil or for genuine a claims but something is very wrong 😦with the benefits system.

The numbers we are spending on benefits are incredible …let’s see what they slash but cuts are coming under Labour as it’s got out of hand.

Half the country seems to be ranting about PIP but then there’s people like me who are struggling working FT but not eligible for PIP
i have a list of health issues including immunocompromised but the main one is stage 4 endo. On medication and the fatigue is unreal, on a bad day I get up, cry about how tired I am, work, then go to bed without eating
Dropping to 32hrs a week would help but I can’t afford to
Trying to balance the fatigue and pain so bad I’m on morphine with not triggering sickness reviews ag work is rough. On a good day I can exercise and batch cook and I look perfectly normal but I mask a lot of the fatigue

I agree - my DS uses a wheelchair and gets PIP. It has enabled him to work for a year and it is now enabling him to finish his STEM degree.

He'll be one of those who is on the list of people who have MH conditions who receive PIP. Never mind that what he actually gets it for is a severe complex of Ehlers-Danlos related conditions that cause cardiac and digestive problems, constant subluxations and regular full dislocations of joints, constant chronic pain and fatigue - he is never going to get better.

PIP enables him to work and upskill so that he can be productive. But he's on that MH list. People have a ridiculously simplistic view of how PIP works.

The fact that we don’t is probably why so many people’s needs have escalated in the first place

I have EDS. It can be horrific.

I don't know if your son is ND. It's highly co morbid we are now learning.

Indeed. I mean they could go utterly rogue and think about improving MH support before reducing benefits. That would require some common sense though.

Something is also very wrong with the work system, there is a thread right now about people regularly reduced to tears at work, and atrocious conditions. How are people with mental health problems going to cope with work, they just won't.
I do think the changes won't affect people as much as is being reported, if you are unable to work I think you will still be able to claim benefits.

Then you're very lucky that ADHD isn't even on your radar.

Can we give over with the whole 'if you dare ask a question about pip you get jumped on' gaslighting? OP didn't come on and say 'I read you can get PIP and a BMW if you have adhd is this true?' did they? It was a deliberately goady opening post with an agenda, as are most of them re PIP. Feigning shock over something they have zero interest in actually knowing the facts about, then playing innocent and claiming they were only asking

Yes, that is true. If things do not improve with these services, then it does not bode well for the Country if they forge ahead with their plans, imo.

It happens frequently here. They have zero interest in understanding anything, they just want a pile on.

That wasn't free, if it's true. I'm surprised they got enhanced mobility for "just" ADHD but, if they did, they would sacrifice that and put down a down payment of at least £3.5k to get their "free" BMW.

Hay! That sound far too much like common sense.

I work in mental health. If appears that euro coaches on wards with very poorly people are going to become the norm

I claim PIP for my son, he’s 16 and has both autism and ADHD. Anyone who thinks benefits are easy to get, needs to take a look at the 44 pages of form you fill in for PIP. It’s not given lightly. One diagnosis (ADHD) can affect people in very different ways. I don’t think anyone can judge and say a person with “just” something like ADHD is not potentially eligible.

you may think it’s just the trendy thing to be diagnosed at the moment, but I live with and love, a person who struggles hugely and will continue to struggle all his life, and I would trade this in a heartbeat if I could.

@Wishyouwerehere50 he is autistic, but not to a degree that makes him unable to work.

We just have different opinions on how public money should be spent.

Based on your comments, you think that excessive profits being taken from public money to line the pockets of the already wealthy is an acceptable price to pay for a scheme like motability.

Whereas, I think that it would be fairer on both the taxpayer and those who benefit from such a scheme, for us to have perhaps a public / NFP administered lease scheme. A scene that is regulated and accountable. That way, more of the money would go to those who need it.

I have a Ds on Pip with ADHD / Asd . Apart from from PIP we get nothing for him - he should be in college or education . He had tried 2 colleges - managed to get a job twice - neither lasted a month .

The only support we get is a medication review every six months .

i go to talking therapies currently to try manage the stress - my health is in the bin - that’s just supporting him .

I honestly thing your comment is completely ignorant . You have no idea what ADHD is and how it effects daily functioning .

Same here. DS is 15, we get DLA currently for him. He is autistic, has ADHD and severe OCD. He can barely leave the house due to anxiety and his OCD. It will affect his entire life. He may not even be well enough to go to College, will probably not get any qualifications and his future working life and living independently of us is doubtful. We will be his carers indefinitely, probably for the rest of our lives.

@Owlcat42same here. Well ex partner. He was diagnosed late 40’s

I am currently fighting a battle to get my daughter diagnosed and the main driver is I don’t want her in the same situation in 30 years. He is a mess.

I really don’t know how to word this gently, but do you think the government is failing a generation of young people by possibly babying them too much at school, so when they do enter the work age, they aren’t equipped to deal mentally. We are leaving a generation to effectively go on the scrap heap. Also, side note - do we think something is causing adhd and autism now that wasn’t around before, or it has always been around and we didn’t acknowledge.

Sadly I think you’re right about Trump getting in. It’s because there are so many people like you, OP, who have no desire to try and understand what’s actually going on. Who are happy to look at headlines and are “shocked” that people are allowed to get away with this type of thing.
Millions playing the benefits system? Sure!
illegal immigrants getting benefits and free housing? Absolutely!
Mexican immigrants stealing jobs and committing crimes left right and centre? Definitely.
Hatian immigrants eating cats? Of course.

So many people on this thread have tried to explain why your OP was both goady and inaccurate, but you don’t want to listen.
Thats why we are screwed.

Are you a higher earner OP or do you rely on the state to live? Eg reliant on the NHS, state schooling?

Do you honestly believe what you’ve just written?
People like the OPs son have always been here. We just now have a better understanding of why they struggle.
Mayne we should go back to the days of mental institutions and be done with it.

@HollyBerryz so what are you now a mind reader??

I’ve never posted about benefits and you are following the usual spin as soon as it doesn’t suit.

I saw it on TV today and the Sunday papers benefits are under review as the bill is simply staggering …that’s facts,

The discussion was on ADHD and PIP, you aren’t the thread police 🤔deciding what can and can’t be discussed….

Motability is actually run on a NFP basis.