PIP for ADHD

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Been in the news this morning as labour looking to slash benefits bills the cost is enormous and growing.

One of the main points discussed was getting PIP for ADHD I did not think this was possible …🤔.

We are taxed more than ever so cuts will abve to be made but surely this is madness giving out PIP for ADHD …there are genuine claims but… they said there are a 1000 new people per day now claiming PIP…so those on the make are going to spoil or for genuine a claims but something is very wrong 😦with the benefits system.

The numbers we are spending on benefits are incredible …let’s see what they slash but cuts are coming under Labour as it’s got out of hand.

I don’t believe anyone can get PIP for ADHD alone. Maybe for a coexisting condition, but ADHD doesn’t affect a person in way that would qualify for PIP.

it can make it very difficult to hold down a job as colleagues tend to assume a person who has the condition is a bit thick, lazy, defiant or just weird, but that wouldn’t be enough.

I think the problem is change. People, generally don't like change and want to go back.

Pensions - we have always paid out some amount to those who have paid in (& some who haven't but that's another discussion!). Everyone expects it at some point, there is no discretion or exception. Universal.

Support for disabilities in the past was firstly more limited, and secondly generally only available to those with very obvious physical difficulties. It was pretty unusual for those with conditions that make it hard to, for example, leave the house because of mental health issues. This is the change people are struggling with I think, especially as it is seen as easy for people with low level or minimal issues to say 'no I can't leave the house' & it's very hard to prove otherwise. This doesn't show up in fraud counts because who's to say they are lying.

I was diagnosed with ADHD 2 years ago, not a great surprise given how it has dominated my life for over 50 years.

That along with 12 significant health issues including a cancer diagnosis and a disabling spinal condition still isn't enough to get PIP, despite having functional impairment and mobility issues.

I'd be astonished if anyone gets it for ADHD alone but if they do, I'll try applying again.

Of course people get PIP for ADHD if it affects them badly enough !

Private pension pay outs have nothing to do with the welfare bill though (which includes state pension)

@Miley1967in what ways would it affect someone that severely? I’m genuinely asking

Have you actually read the thread? If so you would read numerous people's accounts of what life is like for them and their family members living with ADHD.

I was surprised by the other thread but it’s probably down to how something is phrased.

My response was it sounds like WS setting the scene for welfare cuts, and it’s pointless in a way, over diagnosis taps into a certain narrative. What is more relevant is does this idea of over diagnosis mean funding is cut and what are the outcomes of that

@Miley1967i am diagnosed and medicated for it myself so I think I might be comprehend the challenges

You comprehend YOUR challenges. That doesn’t mean you necessarily comprehend those of others which your post would suggest is the case!

ADHD is not a disability.

Ds 22 can't get PIP for anxiety, depression, ADHD, Borderline Personality Disorder AND Psychosis. He probably has autism too but the waiting list for assessment is over 5 years in my area. He's unable to work or study.

How would you describe Adhd If not a disability?

@Sirzythat’s your inference, I’m not responsible for how you perceive what I wrote. I’m actually interested to know what such challenges others face that require PIP.

I’m fairly confident anyone receiving PIP won’t be getting it for ADHD alone and if they are I’d like to know more about why that would be.

Yes it is

Mumsnet is out of touch when it comes to benefits, they think everyone is honest and in need and there is no such thing as fraudulent claims….they just don’t live in the real world amongst the benefit claimants. Their ignorance is laughable and why it’s so easy to manipulate the system. Everyone knows you say a few “buzz words” to the doctors and then PIP inspectors and then after the rejection letter, appeal and you get it.

A disability is legally defined as any physical or mental impairment that has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on someone's ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities.

In what way do you think adhd fails to meet that definition?

Totally, sometimes I feel as if I’m living in some sort of parallel universe on here

I take it that you have never applied for PIP then!

Goodness..as someone who works on the front line in mental health (retirement age I may add) and part of my job is to support people maximising thd benefits I can get, and my job is NHS funded, I can tell you that your assertion is a sizeable pile of assumption with little basis in reality

Righto, I'll tell me DS he needn't have bothered uploading his inch thick stack of evidence from multiple medical professionals then. He'll love that.

The ignorance of some people on this thread is horrifying. I wish it surprised me, but sadly it doesn't.

Is 'Sizeable pile of assumption' a new euphemism for 'pile of fertiliser in its unprocessed form'?

Horse shit? (I much prefer equines over bovines)

Yep that’s how I feel.

You do?
How does that impact you?

Go on - yoh seem to thing that anyone with a disability has to justify how it impacts them..

so go heade - tell us how you are impacted for paying tax…