PIP for ADHD

[marshmallowmix]

Been in the news this morning as labour looking to slash benefits bills the cost is enormous and growing.

One of the main points discussed was getting PIP for ADHD I did not think this was possible …🤔.

We are taxed more than ever so cuts will abve to be made but surely this is madness giving out PIP for ADHD …there are genuine claims but… they said there are a 1000 new people per day now claiming PIP…so those on the make are going to spoil or for genuine a claims but something is very wrong 😦with the benefits system.

The numbers we are spending on benefits are incredible …let’s see what they slash but cuts are coming under Labour as it’s got out of hand.

Exactly. Let’s just go the whole hog. Why not eh? It’ll be a boon for those at the top at least.

I’m pretty sure some people won’t be happy until we are back to sticking people in the Workhouse

It’s how it feels.

I work at the front line with some of the most vulnerable in mental health - without benefits and s117 and direct payments they would be on the streets.

It is ridiculous to suggest that everyone who is ADHD receives PIP. My son in law and DD1, both diagnosed ADHD hold very responsible and demanding jobs and do not claim any benefits although they have challenges due to most workplaces not being ND friendly. They both have had work needs assessment and allowances made by their employers. For someone to receive PIP if they are ADHD they must struggle with working and doing basic tasks.

Exactly. My middle DC (he's a foster) has both autism and ADHD and doesn't get PIP. He works. He's doing well. The thing people don't seem to get is that everyone is different, and the same condition affects people very differently. That's why PIP is needs based, not diagnosis based.

Shareholders including most working people's pension funds.

That will cost more so isn't cost effective.

Another one assuming that you get 'given' a free car under the Motobility scheme?

Sorry?

My partner aged 73 has been dxd with ADHD, it's badly impacted his life but he gets attendance allowance for several lung conditions he has. In the old days children were just diagnosed as problem kids and it wasn't really known about.

I've said this on a couple of threads this week, but I'm pretty sure the first condition listed on my PIP / ESA documentation is ADHD, because it's the first diagnosis I received.

I am on benefits because I have a brain tumour and epilepsy, but I'm fairly certain I'll be counted as one of the people "getting PIP for ADHD" because it's the first condition listed.

I'm in an online support group for adults with ADHD and 99% of those with ADHD alone are turned down for PIP, so I wonder where all these many people the government is so worried about are hiding.

PIP is not awarded on diagnosis, it is awarded on the difficulties an individual faces
I’m actually getting pissed off with the amount of posts by ignorant, ill informed threads on this subject
To repeat myself I receive enhanced rates of both components for moderate Cerebral palsy, which also has hidden difficulties with spatial awareness, proprioceptual awareness,etc etc.
CP is an umbrella diagnosis ranging from hardly noticeable to very severe impairments.
For CP, also read ADHD, ASD, mental illness etc etc
A lot of information quoted by politicians themselves is incorrect.
PIP can be awarded to employed claimants and ESA/ UC LCWRA IS awarded if a claimant is deemed unable to work
i agree that changes need to be made, but the criteria recently expanded to include some ND conditions as long as they meet the descriptors.

Every time people talk about shareholders they forget most working people who have a pension, pension fund is invested in the different stock markets around the world.

Everyone refers to shareholders as some mythical rich greedy group of people but the reality is the major shareholders in the uk are the pension schemes of us all

No I wouldn’t swap with anyone and feel grateful we are fairly healthy but what is hard to understand for simple folks like me is - how does a family who works hard full time get less than a family who doesn’t work on benefits - there must be a simple answer.

But I don’t paint them as that - I pointed out that big corps frequently use shareholders as an excuse.

OP are you aware that lots of people have more than one disability and some disabilities are more likely to coexist with others?

So when you see a headline of depression, anxiety, ADHD, CP or whatever do a quick Google and see if you can find out what other common conditions it's linked with.

Also lots of people will say they have an illness and when you know them better they may then start talking about something else they have. They are a few examples in this thread.

They do?

It is a legitimate excuse depending on what stock market they sre listed on or country they are incorporated in.

Im not at all knowledgable on how state pension is funded

So private shareholders fund the state pension?

There’s another thread with majority agreeing on over diagnosis and this one seems the opposite.

What a mess. Maybe Labour will say what they’re planning soon.

That's what happens when housing becomes an asset.

Housing costs are so high it means that taxpayers - so us - are paying a lot so people can rent privately or from some housing associations.

And the housing is often in a poor state.

No it's because girls and women are finally being diagnosed.

However it is still a fight.

People agreeing does not mean people are right.

The explosive increase in diagnosis of autism and ADHD is as has been said several times on this thread, largely due to the increased understanding (through actual research) of the differences in how autism and ADHD manifest in girls as opposed to boys.

Benefit bashers don't want to know this, so they go 'lalala scroungers we need to cut the benefit bill'.

And yes, we do need to do that, but we achieve that by making it possible for people to get work and stay in work. However, that isn't nice and simple and it doesn't give people convenient scapegoats, so we don't do it.

No.

Everyone who has a work pension, and that's now the majority of the working population, pension fund is invested in stock markets. Some of the biggest institution investors who hold shares are pension funds.

So when you are talking about shareholders you are talking about most working people's pension funds.

Depending on the country, companies only have a duty to make maximum value, so money, for their shareholders. Their employees and others in society don't count.