PIP for ADHD

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Been in the news this morning as labour looking to slash benefits bills the cost is enormous and growing.

One of the main points discussed was getting PIP for ADHD I did not think this was possible …🤔.

We are taxed more than ever so cuts will abve to be made but surely this is madness giving out PIP for ADHD …there are genuine claims but… they said there are a 1000 new people per day now claiming PIP…so those on the make are going to spoil or for genuine a claims but something is very wrong 😦with the benefits system.

The numbers we are spending on benefits are incredible …let’s see what they slash but cuts are coming under Labour as it’s got out of hand.

Correct Motability Operations is owned by Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds and NatWest. It looks like the government have been aware of governance issues and “obscene” executive pay since 2018, amongst other issues.

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/profits-collapsed-at-motability-despite-revenue-and-customer-numbers-soaring-in-2024/311770

It will be twisted to if you can why can’t everyone else ..

They don’t see different people are affected differently by the same diagnosis .

people are blindly falling into people with disabilities are faking it , don’t deserve help . It’s all a media narrative- people love to blame someone else

So if you earn £100k per year, and get PIP to meet additional costs associated with ADHD, what additional high costs are there going to be that cannot be met from the £100k yearly income? Clearly if holding down a £100k job, you’re capable of working. Therapy needed maybe? Medication/prescription costs? How are these sort of costs going to eat away at your £100k salary to such an extent that it would put you into poverty?

The problem if you start to means test disability benefits is it is those who are just over the threshold that will end up being the ones who are really hurt by it.

The costs of being disabled are well documented and PIP and DLA are designed to try to balance that out a bit. They are also gateways to other things like blue badges

You don’t have to be in poverty to be unable to afford £60/hour therapy every week.

Means testing PIP I think would be a bad idea as those most affected would likely be the ones who are just over the threshold - I’d much rather see people able to access the world with some outliers claiming PIP who could easily afford the additional costs that their disability creates.

It also needs to be researched somewhat first by the OP so it's not full of holes and ableist

Eh? have you actually read what I wrote…nope!

Scammers need to be weeded out, there are those playing the system and that needs to be cracked down upon…I’ve no issue with those who are legitimate.

Stop making stuff up..

I’m not saying anymore as per usual people go on the attack when they don’t like a topic …it’s tit for tat and plain nasty.

A discussion needs to be had as the benefits bill is massive and many families can’t afford any more tax hikes to cover what’s anticipated as the costs this coming year …

It’s not full of holes and ableist …every excuse under the sun when someone has an opposing view!

you shoot them down i.e. me in this instance and jump on any poster in agreement….take a look around this type of behaviour is why Reform are on the rise…people not being listened to.

Open discussion requires an open mind. Op has already made hers up based on inaccurate froth inducing headlines.

Thanks @Sunshineandoranges 🙂!

Another sensible person on this thread.

So you don’t think it’s ableist to be flabbergasted at people with a neurodevelopmental disability being able to claim disability benefits?

Because that’s what you posted.

I mean I hate to point out the obvious, but something quite significant happened 5 years ago.

Your posts aren't centered around scammers, they are centered around those with ADHD, a disability.

You havent answered my question, are you actually higher earner? If you don't believe in a society that supports everyone, why not focus on able bodied people that take out more than they put in? As they have more ability to earn more. Is it because you are in that bracket?

But if you’re on £100k annual salary, £60 per week therapy is not going to cause you financial hardship. And if does, adjustments to your living costs will have to be made to accommodate it. Even with the therapy charges, £100k salary is a pretty decent amount of money to provide you with a decent standard of living. I think if the Government do want to support people with ADHD with costs associated with getting therapy/medication, then they should pay the money direct to therapists/free prescriptions for medication, rather than pay directly to the claimant.

Do you think it’s a is a good idea for the government to police exactly what people spend their benefits on? How much do you think that would cost to monitor and enforce?
I can tell you auditing customers who have attracted direct payments via a care and support plan takes up an insane amount of local authorities time.
is it really a good idea to do this for all benefits?

Attitudes like yours are why Reform are on the rise.

People who believe they are experts on a topic they haven’t got the faintest idea about and then shout down those who do have experience when they point on the flaws in your arguments.

And? Covid has just created another excuse. I have long Covid. Diagnosed, where I have no smell or taste (affecting my MH massively initially, although it’s my new norm now, and I just have to get on with it) I get breathless and tired easy. But life goes on. As a large percentage of that extra over a million people are not claiming to be disabled on the back of Covid, I fail to see how that’s relevant?

Yes same with my daughter. It’s a genuinely awful condition- she is pretty much housebound and won’t go outside without someone with her.

I would imagine the costs of implementing and sustaining a scheme like this would probably cost less long term than the money we’re haemorrhaging out of the system currently.

Okay well that speaks volumes really doesn't it. I'm alright and manage so everyone else who's had covid is the same and should be able to manage too.

Ok. That’s 22.4 million people that need regular monitoring of how they’re spending their benefits - 12.7 of those are of state pension age being told how to spend their pension.

Good luck.

You can claim PIP and work.

Pension isn't a benefit. Everyone over pensionable age receives it. All of whom gave paid into it. Pension top up is different, but otherwise not a benefit. I'm not a pensioner, but certainly dont begrudge those who claim it. It's a right......

This benefits bill labour are banging on about…the largest proportion of it is made up by state pension.

https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/tax-by-tax-spend-by-spend/welfare-spending-pensioner-benefits/

But is it a right? If the argument is that we can't afford to continue supporting people then should those that have taken more out of the system than they have put in recieve it? If disabled people should be scrutinised, why not able bodied people? Maybe we should have a team that works out how many state educated DC you have, how much you have cost the NHS then give people anything left over. We either want a system that supports everyone or we don't. A system that doesn't support anyone is cheap for the government. You just get rid of free schooling, free health care etc. Why are the most vulnerable always the targets of these conversations when the majority of able bodied people in this country take more than they contribute?