Zelensky - feeling quite sad

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I know that there are several threads about him, but I’ve watched the interview again today.
I don’t know what’s made me feel more sad - how exhausted and disappointed he looked, the fact that English isn’t his first language and it must have been hard to speak, let alone speak whilst being verbally attacked, or the suit question.
When the war is over, I want to buy that man the best suit money can buy!
How can anyone kick someone when they are so down anyway.

No one wants socialized healthcare when you can’t get an appointment to see a doctor or dentist.

I never said he was a great guy but when you are accused of something so egregious as rape or murder then it needs to be presented in a criminal court and sentenced accordingly if found guilty. The criminal court has a much higher burden of proof as it should have.

To think that people actually voted for Trump.
Shocking

Yep.

With Canada considering turning off the electricity supply and applying tariffs, I watched something this morning on YouTube so I don't know how accurate estimate that Canadian tariffs will double the price of a Tesla.

Doesn’t that answer just prove my point that America is completely out of step with the rest of the western world

We can get an appointment. It might not be immediately (unless it is urgent or you can by pass the doctors and go straight to A&E)

However as it is all free at the point of need we don’t have people not booking an appointment because they can’t afford to

My mother went to the doctor who told her she can only address one ailment and she had 20 minutes to do so. She is 80. It’s laughable and you think this is acceptable health care.

Sure about that?
What else do you suggest?
https://apnews.com/article/medicaid-cuts-work-requirements-congress-republicans-90ec1119f1d95de067c76f79eec7fa87
(That's AP though, I know Trump supporters don't believe in ot though)

@Molly70 You live in the US, yes?

MN is (obviously) a European forum, with members from various European countries. People who can look at the US and its ‘leadership’ in an unbiased way, because they neither live here nor vote here. Does the fact that most Europeans are horrified by trump not give you any pause at all? Surely you can’t believe that all those people are dems who hate trump.

There is growing US and world wide opposition to trump and his policies, and I fervently hope that opposition will bring positive results. Because normal, reasonable people do not want to live in an isolationist dictator-ruled, pariah country.

They are only considering it. It hasn’t been passed.

My now exh fell ill when in the US

He was taken to the hospital where he spent about 10 days in hospital billed for £256,000

How is that acceptable

The good news is that Trump's pig ignorance has led him to economic and other policies that are already hurting his idiot followers.They are already feeling the pain and will feel more. Robbing the poor to feed the rich is not a very smart approach. It's a crying shame the Democrats are so utterly useless.

Though they are considering something Trump said wouldn't be considered?

Perhaps he didn’t have insurance

It has to pass into law otherwise it’s meaningless

You ought to fact check before spreading false remours you read somewhere.
The Cartier story has been proven as a hoax, as Mr and Mrs Zelensky were in Ottawa visiting the Canadian parliament NOT shopping for jewellery on that day, 22 Sept 23.

Well I think if you are accused of defaming a rape victim you shouldn't hide behind presidential immunity but here we are.
And isn't it actually a good thing that a victim of sexual.assault can choose not to go through a rigorous criminal trial but has other avenues at her disposal?
Though you are assertion is that countless judges and jury members were influenced by the Democratic party? I mean Trump is already hard working on impeaching Judges left right and center so he might even get this verdict overturned in the future so you might as well get what you want...

But why is it being considered when Trump said it wouldn't be? Isn't that the definition of a lie?

It’s just political discourse

Yeah, fair point. It's hard not to be furious with people like @Molly70, to blame them for the horrific leader that they have inflicted on the world, and to make all sorts of assumptions about their characters and values etc. And in some cases, those assumptions will be absolutely accurate and they really will be despicable human beings who have acted with full understanding and intention. But you're right that many will be victims too - easily manipulated by the people pulling the strings and too ignorant to realise just yet what a horrible mistake they have made. And it will be really hard for them when the reality finally dawns because will have to carry the guilt on top of everything else.

So lying about helping poor people is part of that?
Seems like lying about helping people is kind of Trumps thing isn't it? So giving money to rich people is certainly easier.

Proposals may be put forward but often shot down.

Still better than the US though
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/us-health-care-ranking-report-last-rcna171652

Let’s come back to this in 4 years time and see where things stand then. If Trump has been an abject failure then I will prostrate myself before your superior political foresight.

You won't give me an answer to why he lied will you?

Nothing has been done so I can’t comment.