I am a narcissist

[ohyesido]

I am. But I'm not a horrible person.

I lack empathy but I've learned that it isn't nice to manipulate people.

Yet I still do, only in such a way that no one can ever really accuse me of it. Because I twist my words to indicate that I have everyone's best interests at heart.

Everything I do is calculated to ensure I get my own way while maintaining a facade of good intentions

Can anyone relate?

Do you want to share your own issues? From the tone of your many antagonistic comments across multiple threads, there must be some back story. Or are you just on here to cause trouble?

😂 Nice try.

Odd challenge for a training course. You're not a bus driver are you? Yikes!

I thought the assessment for ASPD was very intense and I don’t think it’s complete within a couple of hours. I thought it was multiple tests over weeks? Although I may be very wrong.

pp mentioned it would have been over 10 years ago, so would the diagnostic language be ASPD back then? Again, not sure.

I did the train conundrum too. It’s pretty standard. I can’t actually remember what it was for- could have been philosophy, ethics or team building. Or a personality assessment thing.

Since you asked
Around 10 years ago a friend who is a Counsellor who has clinical experience in Sociopathy suggested I may have it. She got me to do some tests and said they looked positive but I needed a properly qualified person to be sure. Went to my GP who asked a few more questions and then said my friend may be right but that I needed a proper Psychiatrist to be sure. I worked for a company that gave me medical insurance so I got a quick private referral to a Psychiatrist. He spent around 2 hours with me and then said he felt I did exhibit some strong Sociopathic traits and I would get a report. The report said the same thing
Believe me, don't it doesn't actually matter

What I find really really interesting is that throughout this entire thread the people who have been insulting and nasty are not those of us willing to admit we have a Personality Disorder.
Candour is really really upsetting for some people isn't it?
I think its easier to imagine we are lying or bored or trolling or some nonsense than to consider that perfectly functional people around you are different and don't care if you live or die.
I am who I am, I know who I am and I know that its not ideal so I choose to be someone else, maybe by doing that I have actually become that better person because surely we should be judged by our actions rather than our thoughts?

DSM refers to “antisocial personality” in PDs from late 60s onwards.

You’ve either confused me with someone else or you’re trying to cause trouble.

True.

A couple of people on this thread have suggested I do an AMA.

What would be the point? The benefit to me would be the opportunity to be open and honest possibly for the first time in my life which sounds great but the thread would be mostly filled with nice and caring normal people competing with each other to see who could type out the worst insults.

There'd probably be about 5 actual questions and the rest of the posts would be a tedious competition to win at empathy for people unlucky enough to know me.

Did the psychiatrist’s letter give a formal diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder and what were the clinical criteria on which he made the diagnosis?

Also were there any other diagnoses - eg depression and anxiety disorders, ADHD?

None of your business.
I have shared far more than I want to to be honest so go and armchair diagnose someone else because from what I see your whole raison d'etre here is to prove how clever you are and/or that I am a liar.
Neither are true

No you are not reframing it. It was definitely you.

Either you’re mistaken or lying.

This is thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5245981-teenage-son-attempted-suicide-need-support

For my post see 1st pic attached. For OP’s response see 2nd pic attached.

I later asked OP if she had the resources for private psychiatrist and provided a link to budget health insurance.

That is the total of my contribution to the thread.

I am interested in these threads to help me reflect on my own circumstances.

It does get pointed out regularly that posters should be careful not to, if you like ‘play the game’. That these conversations can be manipulative in themselves, and could be supplying something needed by the OP.

Personally I’m happy to take part in a general, roving exploration of how others view the world.
Individuals need to make that choice for themselves though.

Though it triggered an interesting conversation with DH who has his own take on the trolley problem. He’s strongly in favour of the status quo, so all those people were going to die anyway so best not intervene. Luckily he’s not a signalman.

I'm sorry if I upset anybody.

I think I mean that.

unlikely 😁

None of it is any of our business. I haven’t armchair diagnosed anyone, quite the opposite - I’ve drawn attention to the dangers of self and internet diagnosis.

Anyway, good luck.

It doesn’t bother me if they're manipulating to get supply as we’re only discussing itonline here on MN. In real life that’s a completely different matter and I’d mind very much if it were actually affecting my own life. It is an interesting subject.

Same to you

Its very unlikely to ever be discussed IRL, at least with this level of honesty.
To understand why you only have to look at some comments.
I think a lot of people are more comfortable with the mask or to pretend its all lies.

Not this year.

Come on, it was interesting. It had ran its course about 5 pages ago!

More attention seeking?

Thought little wittle fragile narcissist had slinked off herself.