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Ukraine Invasion: Part 54

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MagicFox · 16/02/2025 18:23

We're on 54. Slava Ukraini πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
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PerkingFaintly · 24/02/2025 23:30

Oh @MissConductUS .Sad

Unmumsnetty arm-punch and strong cup of Brew for you.

(Yes, I'm British. It's the only medicine we know.)

blueshoes · 24/02/2025 23:38

I am so sorry @MissConductUS As one of the level heads amongst us, your heart must crack.❀

dibly · 25/02/2025 00:58

So sorry @MissConductUS, I know the stakes were lower but I felt exactly the same after Brexit (still do tbh)

blueshoes · 25/02/2025 02:08

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-24-2025

Key Takeaways:

  • Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine three years ago on February 24, 2022. Ukraine has not been defeated or destroyed but remains resilient and innovative in the face of this unjustified Russian aggression.
  • Russia has accumulated unsustainable personnel and vehicle losses in the last three years since Russia's full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022.
  • The United Nations (UN) General Assembly passed a Ukrainian- and European-backed resolution on February 24 commemorating the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine that recognized Russia as the aggressor in the war, called for a just peace in Ukraine, and supported Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
  • Recent polling indicates that Russians are increasingly supportive of Russia continuing the war in Ukraine until it achieves complete Ukrainian capitulation but are simultaneously starting to feel the economic toll of the three years of Russia's war – casting doubt on Russian President Vladimir Putin's ability to continue to balance "butter and guns" at home in the medium- to long-term.
  • Russian President Vladimir Putin currently remains committed to continuing his war in Ukraine despite rising domestic political and economic pressure and has shown no indication that he is rethinking his determination to compel Ukraine to surrender.
  • Kremlin officials formally rejected the possibility of a ceasefire on any terms other than the complete capitulation of Ukraine and the West on February 24, further underscoring Russia's unwillingness to make compromises during future peace negotiations.
  • European leaders announced a series of new aid packages during their visit to Kyiv on February 24 for the third anniversary of the full-scale invasion on February 24.
  • Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast and near Chasiv Yar, Pokrovsk, and Velyka Novosilka.
  • The Kremlin continues to use Muslim religious and cultural structures in Russia for military recruitment.
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Igotjelly · 25/02/2025 06:54

@MissConductUS it’s knowing there’s still Americans like you that gives me hope.

MagicFox · 25/02/2025 07:45

Completely second Jelly @MissConductUS Flowers

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 25/02/2025 08:32

Igotjelly · 25/02/2025 06:54

@MissConductUS it’s knowing there’s still Americans like you that gives me hope.

Yes, this. Absolutely.

This thread must be absolutely horrible to read at the moment. I'm very glad you're still here.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 25/02/2025 08:35

That's a significant ISW publication today

Recent polling indicates that Russians are increasingly supportive of Russia continuing the war in Ukraine until it achieves complete Ukrainian capitulation

Kremlin officials formally rejected the possibility of a ceasefire on any terms other than the complete capitulation of Ukraine and the West on February 24, further underscoring Russia's unwillingness to make compromises during future peace negotiations.

Had not realised that Russians are increasingly supporting the war.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 25/02/2025 08:39

Is it possible that the influential WSJ criticising Trump is the start of a war? That Trump and Musk have alienated influential business and business are firing shots across the bow?

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 25/02/2025 08:52

Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚑️Moscow open to ceasefire only when talks yield results that 'suit Russia (kyivindependent.com/hostilities-to-end-only-when-negotiations-yield-result-that-satisfies-russia-lavrov-says/),' Lavrov says.
Sergey Lavrov's comments come as the White House announced that a peace deal with Russia could be hashed out this week.

⚑️UN adopts Ukraine's resolution condemning Russia's invasion β€” US, Russia, Belarus vote against (https://kyivindependent.com/un-adopts-ukraines-resolution-condemning-russias-invasion-us-votes-against/).
The U.S., Israel, Hungary, Russia, and Belarus have voted against the resolution.

Despite growing Russian, US pressure, world rallies in support of Ukraine (https://kyivindependent.com/the-world-rallies-in-support-of-ukraine/) [...] On the days nearing the third anniversary, thousands of people around the world have taken to the streets their desire to show support for Ukraine and its fight for freedom.

⚑️Trump says Ukraine minerals deal to 'be signed very soon, (kyivindependent.com/trump-says-ukraine-minerals-deal-to-be-signed-very-soon-plans-meeting-with-zelensky/)' plans meeting Zelensky.

⚑️US, Ukraine close to signing deal (kyivindependent.com/us-ukraine-close-to-signing-deal-on-minerals-worth-hundreds-of-billions-of-dollars-axios-reports/) on minerals worth 'hundreds of billions of dollars,' Axios reports.
According to the draft obtained by Axios, the U.S. would express its desire to keep Ukraine "free, sovereign and secure."

⚑️Lithuania's Nauseda proposes 2030 as Ukraine's EU accession date (https://kyivindependent.com/lithuanias-nauseda-proposes-2030-as-ukraines-eu-accession-date/).

⚑️Nordic countries to provide (kyivindependent.com/nordic-countries-to-provide-ukraine-with-additional-humanitarian-military-energy-aid/) Ukraine with additional humanitarian, military, energy aid.
The Nordic governments' statements coincided with their leaders' visits to Kyiv on the anniversary of the beginning of the all-out war.

⚑️Zelensky, Trump have 'good' (kyivindependent.com/zelensky-trump-have-good-conversation-on-g7-meeting-sidelines/)conversation during G7 meeting.
"As for Donald Trump... We have just had a conversation. It was a very good conversation within the framework of the G7 meeting led by Canada," President Volodymyr Zelensky said.

⚑️Ukraine, Russia reach a deal (kyivindependent.com/ukraine-and-russia-reached-a-deal-to-evacuate-kursk-oblast-residents-russian-official-claims/) to evacuate Kursk Oblast residents, Russian official claims.
Ukraine and Russia have agreed to evacuate residents of Kursk Oblast through Belarus to other parts of the country, a Russian official claimed on Feb. 24.
Earlier, Russian media reported allegations of atrocities committed by Ukrainian troops against civilians in the Kursk region.

⚑️'Nobody can demand anything (kyivindependent.com/nobody-can-demand-anything-from-russia-putin-talks-about-renewed-us-russia-contacts-rare-earth-metals/) from Russia' β€” Putin talks about renewed US-Russia contacts, rare earth metals.
The Kremlin leader said Russia has significantly larger reserves of rare earth metals than Ukraine and is open to working with foreign partners on developing rare earth deposits, including in the occupied parts of Ukraine, which Putin called "newly controlled regions."

⚑️Russia's Ryazan oil refinery halts (kyivindependent.com/russias-ryazan-oil-refinery-halts-operations-following-drone-strike-reuters-reports/) operations following drone strike, Reuters reports.

⚑️EU imports of Russian fossil fuels exceeded aid to Ukraine (kyivindependent.com/eu-imports-of-russian-fuels-exceed-financial-aid-to-ukraine-in-third-year-of-the-russian-invasion-report-says/) in third year of the Russian invasion, report says.
The EU paid 21.9 billion euros ($22.9 billion) for Russian fossil fuel imports in the third year of Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, exceeding the 18.8 billion euros ($19.6 billion) in financial aid sent to Ukraine that year, according to a new report by the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air published on Feb. 24.

⚑️Spain to provide (kyivindependent.com/spain-to-provide-ukraine-with-new-military-aid-package-worth-over-1-billion-in-2025/) Ukraine with military aid package worth over $1 billion in 2025.

⚑️ Starmer announces UK's largest package (kyivindependent.com/starmer-announces-largest-package-of-sanctions-against-russia/) of sanctions against Russia, confirms readiness to deploy peacekeepers in Ukraine.
The U.K. is imposing its largest-ever package of sanctions against Moscow, targeting its "shadow fleet" of tankers and foreign-based companies providing military parts to Russia, U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer said on Feb. 24.Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚑️ Boris Johnson backs (kyivindependent.com/boris-johnson-backs-trumps-mineral-deal-for-ukraine/) Trump's deal on Ukraine's natural resources.

⚑️Russia has launched over 30 mass strikes (kyivindependent.com/russia-has-launched-over-30-mass-strikes-on-ukraines-energy-system-during-3-years-of-war-ministry-says/) on Ukraine's energy system in 3 years, ministry says.
Losses from Russian attacks amount to "billions of dollars," according to Energy Minister Herman Halushchenko.

⚑️Women account for 21% of applicants (kyivindependent.com/women-account-for-21-of-applicants-at-ukraines-army-recruitment-centers-defense-ministry-reports/) at Ukraine's army recruitment centers.

⚑️Around 165,000 Russian troops (kyivindependent.com/around-165-000-russian-troops-killed-in-ukraine-media-reports/) killed in Ukraine, media reports.
Using open-source research and statistical analysis, a report by independent Russian media outlets Meduza and Mediazona suggests that Russian losses have increased each year.

In 3 years of war, Ukraine's mothers have been forced underground (kyivindependent.com/in-3-years-of-war-ukraines-mothers-have-been-forced-underground/)
β€œAs Ukraine reaches the three-year mark since Russia’s full-scale invasion, the impact on women’s health β€” and especially maternal health β€” has grown increasingly dire. Missiles and drone attacks strike without warning, putting pregnant women and their newborns at constant risk. In areas closer to the front line, the challenges are even greater, with higher rates of premature births, a lack of consistent medical services, and overwhelming mental stress that reverberates through every aspect of daily life,” writes UNFPA Representative (a.i.) to Ukraine Ulla MΓΌller in her op-ed.

⚑️2 killed, 6 injured in Russian attacks (kyivindependent.com/2-dead-6-injured-in-russian-attacks-on-sumy-oblast/) on Sumy Oblast.

Ragnar Bjartur Gudmundsson πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦β€¬ β€ͺ
⚑️ WAR IN UKRAINE - FEB 25, 2025
β–  Engagements <100 but most casualties in over a week
β–  Updated share of deaths (total deaths close to 250k)
β–  Vehicles & drones constitute the lion's share of equipment losses
β–  πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ targets included a Buk-M3 system

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Hillsmakeyoustrong · 25/02/2025 08:55

@MissConductUS I'm sorry. I have no idea how it must feel for you. For what it is worth (knowing it is very small comfort in the face of such betrayal by your own government) we all have so much respect for you and we are all very much on the same side. Along with the millions of Americans whose hearts will also be breaking.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 25/02/2025 09:06

UNITED24 Media Telegram Highlights

❗️93 countries supported the resolution of Ukraine and its European allies at the UN General Assembly. The USA, Russia, Hungary, and Israel voted against. China abstained.
The resolution calls Russia an aggressor country and demands the withdrawal of troops from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders

The UN also approved the American resolution without condemning Russian aggression, with Ukraine abstaining.
The US resolution β€œPath to Peace” was supported by 93 UN member states, eight voted against, and 73 abstained.
At the same time, the UN General Assembly rejected the Russian amendment β€œon the need to eliminate the root causes of the Ukrainian crisis.” 71 states voted against it, and 31 supported it.

❗️Putin said that Russia is ready to cooperate with the United States on rare earth metals, particularly in the occupied part of the Donetsk region.
His words were quoted by TASS. Earlier, US President Donald Trump stated that the United States is interested in rare earth metals in Russian territories.
Additionally, the Russian President announced his readiness to supply two million tons of aluminum to the US market and suggested β€œthinking about joint work between Russia and the United States on aluminum production, for example, in the Krasnoyarsk Territory.”

The European Commission hopes to open three clusters of negotiations between Ukraine and the EU by the end of the Polish presidency in June, said European Commissioner for Enlargement, Marta Kos, at a joint meeting of the EC and the Cabinet of Ministers.

EU member states will not demand any natural resources from Ukraine in exchange for aid, said European Council President Antonio Costa in an interview with Ukrainian media.

I hope that President Zelenskyy will come to the Oval Office to sign the peace agreement, β€” US President Donald Trump said at a press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron.
Trump also stated that he is β€œhelping Ukraine like no one has before.”

β€œPutin told me he has no problem with deploying European troops in Ukraine as part of a peace deal,” Trump said.

Almost half of Ukraine's population (46%) has mental health problems due to war, says WHO

πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί The new EU initiative on military assistance to Ukraine, presented during the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting, received broad approval. However, its details will be discussed by EU leaders at an extraordinary summit on March 6, said EU foreign policy chief Kallas.

πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ The UK will provide Ukraine with $5.6 billion in military aid this year. Prime Minister Starmer also announced the largest package of sanctions since the first days of the war against the Russian shadow fleet and Russian and Chinese companies supplying military components.
πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ Spanish Prime Minister Sanchez announced a billion euros in aid to Ukraine in 2025. He also announced the creation of a Ukrainian hub in the province of Alicante.
πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄ Norway will allocate 3.5 billion euros in 2025 to support Ukraine, including a billion for humanitarian support and 300 million for energy, Prime Minister Jonas Gahr StΓΈre said.
πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ Sweden will transfer another more than 100 million euros for air defense, Prime Minister Kristersson announced.
πŸ‡©πŸ‡° Denmark will provide Ukraine with about $285 million for weapons and ammunition, the government said in a statement.

Lithuania will soon deliver RBS-70 short-range air defense systems to Ukraine, announced President Gitanas NausΔ—da.
The RBS-70 helped the Defense Forces destroy a Russian Ka-52 in August 2023. The system has an air target engagement range of up to seven kilometers in the Mk 2 variant and up to nine kilometers in the RBS-70NG variant.

πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Britain has imposed the largest package of sanctions against Russia since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. The British sanctions targeted:
▫️ 40 β€œshadow fleet” vessels transporting Russian oil
▫️ 14 β€œnew kleptocrats,” some of whom head strategic sectors of the Russian economy
▫️ Foreign financial institutions supporting the Russian military machine, including the Kyrgyz Keremet Bank
▫️ North Korean Defense Minister No Kwan Chol and other North Korean senior officials involved in the deployment of DPRK military in Russia
▫️ Manufacturers and suppliers of machine tools, electronics, and dual-use goods for the Russian military, including microprocessors used in weapons systems

There is a risk that peace in Ukraine could be more dangerous than the current war, said Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen.

Japan is expanding its medical assistance program for Ukrainian servicemen injured in combat, the Ministry of Defense of Japan announced.
In addition to the Central Hospital of the Self-Defense Forces, where Ukrainian servicemen have been undergoing rehabilitation since June 2023, the program now includes the hospital of the National Military Medical College of the Ministry of Defense of Japan.

The Irish government will transfer some of its outdated radars to protect cities in Ukraine, according to The Irish Times.
This is the Giraffe Mark IV radar, which has a detection range of up to 50 km and can track up to 20 targets simultaneously.
Ireland has seven such systems in service, of which, according to the publication’s sources, at least three will be transferred.

Since February 24, 2022, in cooperation with the Defense Forces of Ukraine, 26,525 enemy air attack vehicles have been shot down, the Air Force reported.
These include:
▫️370 aircraft
▫️331 helicopters
▫️40 Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles
▫️95 Iskander-M/KN-23 ballistic missiles
▫️550 Kalibr cruise missiles
▫️95 Iskander-K cruise missiles
▫️1,801 Kh-101/Kh-55cm/Kh-555 cruise missiles
▫️460 Kh-59/Kh-69 guided aircraft missiles
▫️25 missiles of other types
▫️14,286 Shahed attack UAVs
▫️and 6,900 reconnaissance UAVs.

Over three years, the Air Force’s tactical aviation has carried out over 20,000 sorties: about 10,000 for fire suppression of the enemy and more than 12,000 for fighter air cover.

The Eiffel Tower in Paris and the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin were illuminated in the colors of the Ukrainian flag as a sign of solidarity.

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 25/02/2025 09:14

Kyiv Post Telegram Highlights

In Poland, the planned EU-Ukraine and EU-US summits have been canceled, President Duda announced during a meeting of Poland’s National Security Council on Monday, expressing his disappointment over the decision.

Trump did NOT call Putin a dictator.
Journalist: You called Zelensky a dictator. Would you use the same words for Putin?
Trump: I don’t use those words lightly.

β€œNone of us left the war” β€” Ukraine’s veterans open up about life after the front, the struggle to fit in, and why some still feel the pull to return.
www.kyivpost.com/post/47695

What was Ukraine like before 2022?
A reminder of what Ukrainians are fighting for.
https://www.kyivpost.com/photos/47713

On the 3rd anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Kyiv Post shares the stories of mothers who chose life in the midst of war.
www.kyivpost.com/post/47693

By that logic, the Americans provoked the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor” β€” former UK Prime Minister Johnson, criticizing Trump’s statements blaming Ukraine for starting the war.
He is also confident that Churchill would have acted the same way as Zelensky does now.

Trump adviser Elon Musk emailed federal workers, demanding they list their work from last week, warning: β€œFailure to respond will be taken as a resignation.”
US labor unions push back against the unelected billionaire’s threats.
www.kyivpost.com/post/47760

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 25/02/2025 09:18

Live: Ukraine Telegram Highlights

πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί EU: Too Early to Discuss Lifting Sanctions on Russia
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen stated that it is premature to consider lifting sanctions on Russia without clear signs of commitment to peace.

πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊThe EU proposes a separate critical minerals agreement to Ukraine.
During his visit to Kyiv, European Commissioner StΓ©phane SΓ©journΓ© offered Ukrainian officials an agreement on β€œcritical materials,” calling it a β€œwin-win” for both sides.
According to him, 21 out of the 30 materials critical for Europe are found in Ukraine, and the EU seeks a mutually beneficial deal. [I hope that the terms are better than the US terms and Zelensky goes for it]

πŸ‡°πŸ‡·β—οΈSouth Korea will lift sanctions on the supply of medical equipment to Russia from February 28, the South Korean Ministry of Industry, Trade and Resources said.

Financial Times: Zelensky Reportedly β€œYelled in a Hoarse Voice” at U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent Over Mineral Deal
According to the Financial Times, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky β€œwas very angry” during a heated exchange with U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent after he brought the mineral resources agreement to Kyiv.
β€œHe was extremely furious,” one source told the publication. Ukrainian officials claimed that Bessent demanded Zelensky sign the deal immediately, but the president refused.
Earlier, Donald Trump also alleged that Bessent was treated rather harshly during his visit to Kyiv.

πŸ‡·πŸ‡ΊπŸ€‘ Russia and the U.S. Seek Peace in Ukraine, but Zelensky Stands in the Way β€” Putin
Other statements from the Russian dictator:
β–ͺ️ Russia has no objection to the preservation of Ukrainian statehood, but Ukraine must not be used as a platform for attacks on Russia.
β–ͺ️ Russia would actually benefit from Zelensky staying in power, as it would further weaken the Ukrainian regime.
β–ͺ️ Zelensky avoids peace negotiations, as they would quickly lead to the need to lift martial law and hold elections.
β–ͺ️ Zelensky has zero chance of winning an election, according to Putin.

Polish Foreign Minister to Russia’s Ambassador: Ukraine has a longer history than Russia. It has been a member of the UN longer than Russia

❗️Russians Attack Sloviansk: One Confirmed Dead

In Kyiv, hundreds of candles were lit on Maidan Nezalezhnosti in memory of the fallen defenders in the Russo-Ukrainian war https://t.me/liveukraine_media/29213

πŸ•―οΈ

β€œIs Russia interested in ending this conflict?” U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio stated that this was the focus of the first meeting with Russia, and further talks will address the conditions.
According to Rubio, during the initial negotiations, the Russian side expressed readiness for a ceasefire but only β€œunder certain conditions.” However, neither the American nor the Russian delegations discussed what those conditions were. This will be the topic of the next meeting.
Rubio also emphasized that the same question should be asked of Ukraine, as it is impossible to end the war without agreement from both sides.
β–ͺ️On February 18, Russia and the U.S. held their first negotiations in Saudi Arabia, agreeing to form working groups focused on ending the war in Ukraine.
β–ͺ️On February 22, U.S. President Donald Trump announced that U.S. and Russian representatives would meet again in Saudi Arabia on February 25. However, Russia denied this. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov claimed the meeting was planned β€œin the next two weeks” but did not specify a date.

Igotjelly · 25/02/2025 12:01

The Prime Minister is going to be giving an emergency defence statement in the Commons at half 12. It wasn’t previously on the parliamentary agenda for the day.

MMBaranova · 25/02/2025 12:37

Posting this again as the horror keeps sinking in.

Apologies to President Xi. China is in the Axis of Neutral.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 54
Igotjelly · 25/02/2025 12:47

Increasing defence spending to 2.5% by 2027, taking the extra from the aid budget. Target is now 3% in the next Parliament.

notimagain · 25/02/2025 13:32

Igotjelly · 25/02/2025 12:47

Increasing defence spending to 2.5% by 2027, taking the extra from the aid budget. Target is now 3% in the next Parliament.

That’s good news as long as the decision of how to spend the extra money doesn’t get delayed β€œin committee” and the increased spend doesn’t get hoovered up buying gin for various boardrooms by inflation in the price of equipment already on order.

Fundamentally fingers need extracting really quickly, but it’s rare for Westminster to do quickly…

(Yes I know, pot half empty and all that).

Esmeraldaemerald · 25/02/2025 13:33

Too little and not fast enough in my opinion … Putin isn’t going to wait nicely till 2027

dibly · 25/02/2025 13:54

Delicious moment of Macron correcting Flump yesterday, so good to see.

blueshoes · 25/02/2025 14:05

Moving in the right direction but hoping the UK is not missing a trick to do much more, faster and harder, whilst we have initial momentum.

WinterMorn · 25/02/2025 14:05

Esmeraldaemerald · 25/02/2025 13:33

Too little and not fast enough in my opinion … Putin isn’t going to wait nicely till 2027

Agreed. I was hoping for 3.5 or even 4. We have to show we are serious and this isn’t good enough.

notimagain · 25/02/2025 14:49

One of many problems is so much of the UK defence estate has been sold off in the last 30 plus years even if you could β€œfix” retention, recruiting and provision of equipment overnight you’d have no room to put everything and struggle to find room for training…..

It can be done but it’s not going to be done with what has been announced today.

Esmeraldaemerald · 25/02/2025 14:51

I fear that the current government are so afraid of making themselves unelectable in 4 years time that they won’t do what’s needed .

blueshoes · 25/02/2025 15:24

notimagain · 25/02/2025 14:49

One of many problems is so much of the UK defence estate has been sold off in the last 30 plus years even if you could β€œfix” retention, recruiting and provision of equipment overnight you’d have no room to put everything and struggle to find room for training…..

It can be done but it’s not going to be done with what has been announced today.

This is so depressing.

Instead of just slashing the aid budget, Keir should swap a few of those planned infrastructure projects to invest in re-building the defence real estate. He can do much better than 2.5%

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