Trump's Theory about the Plane Crash

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Just watched his press conference in absolute disbelief. He's just blamed the air traffic controllers as apparently under the Biden administration they recruited people into the role who weren't intellectually capable. He actually blames diversity criteria and basically box ticking.... 'hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities' - that's a direct quote.

As someone with ASD, anxiety and depression who works in a high level, highly skilled role, I am angry on behalf of anyone like me.

The man is a dangerous liar.

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You understand that’s not about employment? Or unsupervised?

"a pilot program to help prepare people with disabilities for careers in air traffic operations."

That does NOT mean people with any of those attributes were actually hired. It means the FAA took the DEI seriously enough to give them a fair go, instead of doing a Trump.

"The candidates in this program will receive the same rigorous consideration in terms of aptitude, medical and security qualifications as those individuals considered for a standard public opening for air traffic controller jobs. Participants in the program will receive up to one year of experience in an Air Route Traffic Control Center (ARTCC) with the potential to be appointed to a temporary ATCS position at the FAA Academy."

What this means is they would be assessed under "the same rigorous consideration in terms of aptitude, medical and security qualifications" and IF (and it's a big IF) they met the requirements, they MIGHT be allowed to work in a control centre and IF they showed aptitude, they MIGHT progress to a temporary training position in the academy.

I hope the orange guy apologises when he is proven totally out of touch with this particular reality.

You think those with serious intellectual disabilities should be Air Traffic Controllers?

Where do you get "serious disabilities, including intellectual impairment, paralysis etc" from?

And - it says that people have to reach the same MEDICAL and APTITUDE tests.

Maybe you haven't got the intellectual ability to understand that?

Maybe you can't read?

Where do you think it says "serious intellectual disabilities?"

Excuse me. There’s no need to resort to personal attacks.

The FAA has a list of targeted disabilities that they were looking for as part of the programme. That’s the whole point of the programme.

You think someone with an intellectual ability would reach "the same rigorous consideration in terms of aptitude, medical and security qualifications" as other candidates?

You are choosing not to answer it because you know that you have reached the end of your logic and the question the other poster posed to you puts you in a corner where you know that there are three answers;

You chose randomly
You pick the white male (which is what has happened historically due biased thinking)
You pick the underrepresented person to start to redress the proven imbalance.

How far down the rabbit hole of nutterdom do you have to be to think that the people in charge of aviation safety are willing to risk killing hundreds of people in massive fireballs in the name of woke?

The FAA targeted disabilities list. Look. It. Up

Someone has actually said that on twitter. Apparently thinking that the advisory group was in charge of steering aircraft themselves and that they would naturally all fall out of the sky without them.

Their hatred of Trump had caused them to create a fantasy whereby the advisors were fired and the next day people died in a plane crash because of it.

Trump can talk out of his arse sometimes, but he isn't alone in that.

He's a strange man. He has done some great things already, but when he has nothing specific to say he just seems to wander off saying whatever comes into his head. Which is fine when chatting with friends, but not speaking in public.

The diversity thing is real, but not to the extent he was suggesting. Any system that recruits for any other reason than merit is dangerous of course.

Hopefully they'd always check the person was capable of doing the job, but with DEI that won't be the best person for the job, but someone adequate who filled the quota. If DEI made no difference it wouldn't need to exist.

Another arrogant, mind reading poster.

That list is not on the web link.

Do you understand this phrase?

"The same MEDICAL and APTITUDE ability"

What do you think that means?

Luckily it’s archived. Look. It. Up

@LastTrainsEast this shows you don’t know what DEI is Hopefully they'd always check the person was capable of doing the job, but with DEI that won't be the best person for the job, but someone adequate who filled the quota. If DEI made no difference it wouldn't need to exist.
It’s not about adequacy and quotas. It’s about choosing an under represented person when all other things are equal.

So clearly you haven't got the intellectual understanding to answer a simple question

Trumpism is obviously catching. Pathetic.

Those are the 3 options. Why won’t you say which you would go for?

It’s embarrassing the lengths people will go to claim that it’s normal for those with serious intellectual disabilities, paralysis etc should be in Air Traffic Control.

No one believes that. Embarrassing

This sensible Captain gives a better assessment than the Orange Idiot.

The same MEDICAL and APTITUDE ability.

I got that from your link.

No one believes they are in ATC roles though. Nobody has provided any evidence.

Are you actually serious? Your thinking is a joke and it’s an insult to all British people.

AmateurNoun can you provide credible sources for this info?

Also as others have said questioning authority is quite an important factor in safety. There have been a number of accidents in the air and at sea where not questioning a pilot or captain of a ship led to catastrophe. Check out the Cautionary Tales podcast by Tim Harford for some examples including the Torrey Canyon, the Costa Concordia and the Tenerife air disaster. Air traffic controllers have to have authority and think fast under pressure not wait for commands when they are managing the flight paths of a number of aeroplanes at a time.

I'm not saying your story is true but I'm wondering if you are questioning the things you are being spoon fed and using critical judgement.

Again.

You have attacked my intelligence and reading ability.

Your behaviour is extremely rude